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Is Chain-of-Thought Reasoning of LLMs a Mirage? A Data Distribution Lens

Chengshuai Zhao, Zhen Tan, Pingchuan Ma, Dawei Li, Bohan Jiang, Yancheng Wang, Yingzhen Yang, Huan Liu

Abstract

Chain-of-Thought (CoT) prompting has been shown to be effective in eliciting structured reasoning (i.e., CoT reasoning) from large language models (LLMs). Regardless of its popularity, recent studies expose its failures in some reasoning tasks, raising fundamental questions about the nature of CoT reasoning. In this work, we propose a data distribution lens to understand when and why CoT reasoning succeeds or fails. We hypothesize that CoT reasoning reflects a structured inductive bias learned from in-distribution data, enabling models to conditionally generate reasoning trajectories that approximate those observed during training. As such, the effectiveness of CoT reasoning is fundamentally governed by the nature and degree of distribution discrepancy between training data and test queries. Guided by this lens, we dissect CoT reasoning via three dimensions: task, length, and format. To test the hypothesis, we introduce DataAlchemy, an abstract and fully controllable environment that trains LLMs from scratch and systematically probes them under various distribution conditions. Through rigorous controlled experiments, we reveal that CoT reasoning is a brittle mirage when it is pushed beyond training distributions, emphasizing the ongoing challenge of achieving genuine and generalizable reasoning.

arXiv comments
Accepted by the Association for Computational Linguistics (ACL) 2026 and Foundations of Reasoning in Language Models (FoRLM) at NeurIPS 2025
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cs.AIArtificial Intelligence cs.CLComputation and Language cs.LGMachine Learning

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  1. Three Inverse Laws of AI 1 comment
    • Examples: https://arxiv.org/html/2506.02878v1 https://arxiv.org/pdf/2508.01191 Anthropic themselves: https://www.anthropic.com/research/reasoning-models-dont-say... They were approaching this from an interpretability standpoint, but the more interesting finding in there is that…

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  2. Talk like caveman 1 comment
    • I don't consider these researchers luddites. https://machinelearning.apple.com/research/illusion-of-think... https://arxiv.org/abs/2508.01191

      ericjmoreyView on HNParent context

    • Bad news: it doesn't seem to work as well as you might think: https://arxiv.org/pdf/2508.01191 As one might expect, because the AI isn't actually thinking, it's just spending more tokens on the problem. This sometimes leads to the desired outcome but the phenomenon is very…

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  3. LLMs aren't world models 1 comment

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