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arXiv:2506.20057cs.LG

Universal pre-training by iterated random computation

Peter Bloem

Abstract

We investigate the use of randomly generated data for the sake of pre-training a model. We justify this approach theoretically from the perspective of algorithmic complexity, building on recent research that shows that sequence models can be trained to approximate Solomonoff induction. We derive similar, but complementary theoretical results. We show empirically that synthetically generated data can be used to pre-train a model before the data is seen. We replicate earlier results that models trained this way show zero-shot in-context learning across a variety of datasets, and that this performance improves with scale. We extend earlier results to real-world data, and show that finetuning a model after pre-training offers faster convergence and better generalization.

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    • Reminds me of "Universal pre-training by iterated random computation" https://arxiv.org/pdf/2506.20057, with bit less formal approach. I wonder if there is a closed-form solution for those kinds of initialization methods (call them pre-training if you wish). A solution that…

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    • The brain implements some kind of fairly general learning algorithm, clearly. There's too little data in the DNA to wire up 90 billion neurons the way we can just paste 90 billion weights into a GPU over a fiber optic strand. But there's a lot of innate scaffolding that actually…

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    • Stop thinking about text being the data. There are so many other sources, even some that you can generate. https://arxiv.org/pdf/2506.20057

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