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arXiv:2309.08632cs.CL

Pretraining on the Test Set Is All You Need

Rylan Schaeffer

Abstract

Inspired by recent work demonstrating the promise of smaller Transformer-based language models pretrained on carefully curated data, we supercharge such approaches by investing heavily in curating a novel, high quality, non-synthetic data mixture based solely on evaluation benchmarks. Using our novel dataset mixture consisting of less than 100 thousand tokens, we pretrain a 1 million parameter transformer-based LLM \textbf{phi-CTNL} (pronounced ``fictional") that achieves perfect results across diverse academic benchmarks, strictly outperforming all known foundation models. \textbf{phi-CTNL} also beats power-law scaling and exhibits a never-before-seen grokking-like ability to accurately predict downstream evaluation benchmarks' canaries.

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3 pages, satire
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cs.CLComputation and Language cs.AIArtificial Intelligence

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  1. Claude 4 1 comment
  2. Grok3 Launch [video] 1 comment
    • So apart from the part where SOTA doesn't mean anything in the real world (there is no monetisation, there's no moat), please, it's benchmarks, we all know how you beat those since 2023. Time to review https://arxiv.org/abs/2309.08632 AI-CEO.org's best friend (and actually…

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  3. Claude 3 model family 1 comment
    • If you change the names and numbers a bit, e.g. "Jake (a guy) has 6 sisters. Each sister has 3 brothers. How many brothers does Jake have?" it fails completely. Mixtral is not that good, it's just contaminated with this specific prompt. In the same fashion lots of Mistral 7B…

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    • You know what they say about LLM benchmarks nowadays? Pre-training on the test set is all you need. https://arxiv.org/abs/2309.08632 Many of the modern LLMs take entire copy of internet which includes the test set for many of these benchmarks. So if someone claims to beat…

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    • Related paper https://arxiv.org/pdf/2309.08632.pdf ‘Pre-training on the Test Set Is All You Need‘ GPT-4 is really smart to dig information it has seen before, but please don’t use it for any serious reasoning. Always take the answer with a grain of salt.

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