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Demonstration of Communication using Neutrinos

D. D. Stancil, P. Adamson, M. Alania, L. Aliaga, M. Andrews, C. Araujo Del Castillo, L. Bagby, J. L. Bazo Alba, A. Bodek, D. Boehnlein, R. Bradford, W. K. Brooks, H. Budd, A. Butkevich, D. A. M. Caicedo, D. P. Capista, C. M. Castromonte, A. Chamorro, E. Charlton, M. E. Christy, J. Chvojka, P. D. Conrow, I. Danko, M. Day, J. Devan, J. M. Downey, S. A. Dytman, B. Eberly, J. R. Fein, J. Felix, L. Fields, G. A. Fiorentini, A. M. Gago, H. Gallagher, R. Gran, J. Grange, J. Griffin, T. Griffin, E. Hahn, D. A. Harris, A. Higuera, J. A. Hobbs, C. M. Hoffman, B. L. Hughes, K. Hurtado, A. Judd, T. Kafka, K. Kephart, J. Kilmer, M. Kordosky, S. A. Kulagin, V. A. Kuznetsov, M. Lanari, T. Le, H. Lee, L. Loiacono, G. Maggi, E. Maher, S. Manly, W. A. Mann, C. M. Marshall, K. S. McFarland, A. Mislivec, A. M. McGowan, J. G. Morfin, H. da Motta, J. Mousseau, J. K. Nelson, J. A. Niemiec-Gielata, N. Ochoa, B. Osmanov, J. Osta, J. L. Palomino, J. S. Paradis, V. Paolone, J. Park, C. Pena, G. Perdue, C. E. Perez Lara, A. M. Peterman, A. Pla-Dalmau, B. Pollock, F. Prokoshin, R. D. Ransome, H. Ray, M. Reyhan, P. Rubinov, D. Ruggiero, O. S. Sands, H. Schellman, D. W. Schmitz, E. C. Schulte, C. Simon, C. J. Solano Salinas, R. Stefanski, R. G. Stevens, N. Tagg, V. Takhistov, B. G. Tice, R. N. Tilden, J. P. Velasquez, I. Vergalosova, J. Voirin, J. Walding, B. J. Walker, T. Walton, J. Wolcott, T. P. Wytock, G. Zavala, D. Zhang, L. Y. Zhu, B. P. Ziemer

Abstract

Beams of neutrinos have been proposed as a vehicle for communications under unusual circumstances, such as direct point-to-point global communication, communication with submarines, secure communications and interstellar communication. We report on the performance of a low-rate communications link established using the NuMI beam line and the MINERvA detector at Fermilab. The link achieved a decoded data rate of 0.1 bits/sec with a bit error rate of 1% over a distance of 1.035 km, including 240 m of earth.

arXiv comments
10 pages, 7 figures, updated with final figures used in Modern Physics Letters A publication
Journal reference
Mod. Phys. Lett. A 27 (2012) 1250077
DOI
doi:10.1142/S0217732312500770
Subjects
hep-exHigh Energy Physics, Experiment

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  1. A worker fell into a nuclear reactor pool 1 comment

    • Honestly, the military would probably come after you first. Or maybe an oil company? Frankly because if you could detect neutrinos at that resolution you would be able to produce a really good mapping of... just about anything. From the inside of the Earth to the inside of a…

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    • > they could tweet-by-neutrino in near real-time We demonstrated in 2012 a neutrino-based link which “achieved a decoded data rate of 0.1 bits/sec with a bit error rate of 1% over a distance of 1.035 km, including 240 m of earth” [1]. To put that into perspective, a…

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    • The MINERvA experiment at Fermilab already demonstrated communication with neutrinos, admittedly over short distance: "The link achieved a decoded data rate of 0.1 bits/sec with a bit error rate of 1% over a distance of 1.035 km, including 240 m of earth."…

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  5. Scientists plan huge European AI hub to compete with US 1 comment

    • Remote monitoring nuclear reactors for signs of weapons development: http://iopscience.iop.org/article/10.1088/1742-6596/593/1/01... Communication through any obstacles, including (in principle) the entire diameter of the planet: https://arxiv.org/abs/1203.2847

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    • > Has neutrino-based signalling been achieved or is it still a research topic? An accelerator- or reactor-based neutrino experiment can detect whether the source is on or off, so in principle you can send binary information. This has been demonstrated using NuMI/MINERvA [1].…

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  8. Fermilab experiment sees neutrinos change over 500 miles 1 comment

    • The immediate problem is that you need to send a huge number of neutrinos to be able to detect anything, so cost and bandwidth are prohibitive. In the proof of concept cited in your link, the experimenters used a 120 GeV beam to send a 0.1 bits/sec signal.…

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  9. ISPs to start policing copyright by July 12 1 comment

    • I understand that you read about a "a neutrino network that would transmit directly through the Earth, for true point-to-point communication," but you obviously didn't read the paper. Here it is. http://arxiv.org/abs/1203.2847 It's a proof-of-principle. A stunning achievement…

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