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<rss version="2.0" xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom"><channel><title>Demonstration of Communication using Neutrinos · HackerPapers discussions</title><link>https://hackerpaper.kaipfister.de/p/1203.2847/</link><description>Collected HN comments and submissions linking this paper.</description><language>en</language><lastBuildDate>Mon, 02 Nov 2026 11:16:22 GMT</lastBuildDate><atom:link href="https://hackerpaper.kaipfister.de/p/1203.2847/feed.xml" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" /><item><title>Demonstration of Communication using Neutrinos — mentioned by godelski</title><link>https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45709514</link><guid isPermaLink="false">urn:hackerpapers:mention:1203.2847:45709514</guid><pubDate>Sun, 26 Oct 2025 06:09:51 GMT</pubDate><description>&lt;p&gt;Honestly, the military would probably come after you first. Or maybe an oil company? Frankly because if you could detect neutrinos at that resolution you would be able to produce a really good mapping of... just about anything. From the inside of the Earth to the inside of a secret military facility on the opposite side of the planet. Not to mention you&amp;#x27;ve also invented a communication device that is essentially unjammable[0]. Sufficient to say that you&amp;#x27;d be very popular, but in probably the least fun way possible. [0] https://arxiv.org/abs/1203.2847&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="https://hackerpaper.kaipfister.de/p/1203.2847/"&gt;Paper and discussion history&lt;/a&gt;. A mention is not an endorsement.&lt;/p&gt;</description><category>hep-ex</category></item><item><title>Demonstration of Communication using Neutrinos — mentioned by JumpCrisscross</title><link>https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41245750</link><guid isPermaLink="false">urn:hackerpapers:mention:1203.2847:41245750</guid><pubDate>Wed, 14 Aug 2024 13:18:48 GMT</pubDate><description>&lt;p&gt;&amp;gt; they could tweet-by-neutrino in near real-time We demonstrated in 2012 a neutrino-based link which “achieved a decoded data rate of 0.1 bits/sec with a bit error rate of 1% over a distance of 1.035 km, including 240 m of earth” [1]. To put that into perspective, a through-the-core beam would reach its antipode about 24 milliseconds before its circumnavigating partner [2]. [1] https://arxiv.org/abs/1203.2847 [2] assuming a spherical earth with diameter 12 756 km [a] and circumference 40,075 km [b], and thus distance difference of 7 282 km, and a speed of light of 300mm m/s [a]…&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="https://hackerpaper.kaipfister.de/p/1203.2847/"&gt;Paper and discussion history&lt;/a&gt;. A mention is not an endorsement.&lt;/p&gt;</description><category>hep-ex</category></item><item><title>Demonstration of Communication using Neutrinos — mentioned by cozzyd</title><link>https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29207333</link><guid isPermaLink="false">urn:hackerpapers:mention:1203.2847:29207333</guid><pubDate>Sat, 13 Nov 2021 04:23:53 GMT</pubDate><description>&lt;p&gt;https://arxiv.org/abs/1203.2847&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="https://hackerpaper.kaipfister.de/p/1203.2847/"&gt;Paper and discussion history&lt;/a&gt;. A mention is not an endorsement.&lt;/p&gt;</description><category>hep-ex</category></item><item><title>Demonstration of Communication using Neutrinos — mentioned by retzkek</title><link>https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29205123</link><guid isPermaLink="false">urn:hackerpapers:mention:1203.2847:29205123</guid><pubDate>Fri, 12 Nov 2021 22:09:45 GMT</pubDate><description>&lt;p&gt;It was actually demonstrated (over relatively short distance) using the MINERvA detector at Fermilab: https://arxiv.org/abs/1203.2847&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="https://hackerpaper.kaipfister.de/p/1203.2847/"&gt;Paper and discussion history&lt;/a&gt;. A mention is not an endorsement.&lt;/p&gt;</description><category>hep-ex</category></item><item><title>Demonstration of Communication using Neutrinos — mentioned by retzkek</title><link>https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26030798</link><guid isPermaLink="false">urn:hackerpapers:mention:1203.2847:26030798</guid><pubDate>Thu, 04 Feb 2021 23:01:29 GMT</pubDate><description>&lt;p&gt;The MINERvA experiment at Fermilab already demonstrated communication with neutrinos, admittedly over short distance: &amp;quot;The link achieved a decoded data rate of 0.1 bits/sec with a bit error rate of 1% over a distance of 1.035 km, including 240 m of earth.&amp;quot; https://arxiv.org/abs/1203.2847 Anyone from an HFT firm who wants to look into a partnership researching a neutrino link to the CME data center feel free to reach out :)&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="https://hackerpaper.kaipfister.de/p/1203.2847/"&gt;Paper and discussion history&lt;/a&gt;. A mention is not an endorsement.&lt;/p&gt;</description><category>hep-ex</category></item><item><title>Demonstration of Communication using Neutrinos — mentioned by ben_w</title><link>https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=16911064</link><guid isPermaLink="false">urn:hackerpapers:mention:1203.2847:16911064</guid><pubDate>Tue, 24 Apr 2018 09:09:14 GMT</pubDate><description>&lt;p&gt;Remote monitoring nuclear reactors for signs of weapons development: http://iopscience.iop.org/article/10.1088/1742-6596/593/1/01... Communication through any obstacles, including (in principle) the entire diameter of the planet: https://arxiv.org/abs/1203.2847&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="https://hackerpaper.kaipfister.de/p/1203.2847/"&gt;Paper and discussion history&lt;/a&gt;. A mention is not an endorsement.&lt;/p&gt;</description><category>hep-ex</category></item><item><title>Demonstration of Communication using Neutrinos — mentioned by wmf</title><link>https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=16199736</link><guid isPermaLink="false">urn:hackerpapers:mention:1203.2847:16199736</guid><pubDate>Sun, 21 Jan 2018 20:13:54 GMT</pubDate><description>&lt;p&gt;But you can produce them artificially. https://arxiv.org/abs/1203.2847&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="https://hackerpaper.kaipfister.de/p/1203.2847/"&gt;Paper and discussion history&lt;/a&gt;. A mention is not an endorsement.&lt;/p&gt;</description><category>hep-ex</category></item><item><title>Demonstration of Communication using Neutrinos — HN submission</title><link>https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15427909</link><guid isPermaLink="false">urn:hackerpapers:submission:1203.2847:15427909</guid><pubDate>Sun, 08 Oct 2017 12:07:45 GMT</pubDate><description>&lt;p&gt;Demonstration of Communication using Neutrinos (2012)&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;65 points; 23 discussion replies on HN. &lt;a href="https://hackerpaper.kaipfister.de/p/1203.2847/"&gt;Paper and source history&lt;/a&gt;. A submission is not an endorsement.&lt;/p&gt;</description><category>hep-ex</category></item><item><title>Demonstration of Communication using Neutrinos — mentioned by dukwon</title><link>https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=14618542</link><guid isPermaLink="false">urn:hackerpapers:mention:1203.2847:14618542</guid><pubDate>Fri, 23 Jun 2017 12:08:03 GMT</pubDate><description>&lt;p&gt;&amp;gt; Has neutrino-based signalling been achieved or is it still a research topic? An accelerator- or reactor-based neutrino experiment can detect whether the source is on or off, so in principle you can send binary information. This has been demonstrated using NuMI/MINERvA [1]. It&amp;#x27;s more of a novelty than anything practical. [1] https://arxiv.org/abs/1203.2847&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="https://hackerpaper.kaipfister.de/p/1203.2847/"&gt;Paper and discussion history&lt;/a&gt;. A mention is not an endorsement.&lt;/p&gt;</description><category>hep-ex</category></item><item><title>Demonstration of Communication using Neutrinos — mentioned by allenz</title><link>https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10036626</link><guid isPermaLink="false">urn:hackerpapers:mention:1203.2847:10036626</guid><pubDate>Mon, 10 Aug 2015 19:18:00 GMT</pubDate><description>&lt;p&gt;The immediate problem is that you need to send a huge number of neutrinos to be able to detect anything, so cost and bandwidth are prohibitive. In the proof of concept cited in your link, the experimenters used a 120 GeV beam to send a 0.1 bits/sec signal. (http://arxiv.org/abs/1203.2847)&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="https://hackerpaper.kaipfister.de/p/1203.2847/"&gt;Paper and discussion history&lt;/a&gt;. A mention is not an endorsement.&lt;/p&gt;</description><category>hep-ex</category></item><item><title>Demonstration of Communication using Neutrinos — mentioned by biggus_dictus</title><link>https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=3712197</link><guid isPermaLink="false">urn:hackerpapers:mention:1203.2847:3712197</guid><pubDate>Fri, 16 Mar 2012 06:08:26 GMT</pubDate><description>&lt;p&gt;I understand that you read about a &amp;quot;a neutrino network that would transmit directly through the Earth, for true point-to-point communication,&amp;quot; but you obviously didn&amp;#x27;t read the paper. Here it is. http://arxiv.org/abs/1203.2847 It&amp;#x27;s a proof-of-principle. A stunning achievement, no doubt. But it&amp;#x27;s hardly a practical option for communication, &amp;quot;The link achieved a decoded data rate of 0.1 bits/sec with a bit error rate of 1% over a distance of 1.035 km, including 240 m of earth.&amp;quot; Ant colonies? WTF?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="https://hackerpaper.kaipfister.de/p/1203.2847/"&gt;Paper and discussion history&lt;/a&gt;. A mention is not an endorsement.&lt;/p&gt;</description><category>hep-ex</category></item></channel></rss>
