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Jewish Problems

Tanya Khovanova, Alexey Radul

Abstract

This is a special collection of problems that were given to select applicants during oral entrance exams to the math department of Moscow State University. These problems were designed to prevent Jews and other undesirables from getting a passing grade. Among problems that were used by the department to blackball unwanted candidate students, these problems are distinguished by having a simple solution that is difficult to find. Using problems with a simple solution protected the administration from extra complaints and appeals. This collection therefore has mathematical as well as historical value.

arXiv comments
21 pages, 14 figures
Journal reference
published as "KIller Problems" in The American Matheamtical Monthly Vol. 119, No. 10 (2012), pp815-82
DOI
Subjects
math.HOHistory and Overview

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    • You might want to check out Moscow State's "Jewish Problems" (hard math problems to throw in people's way): https://arxiv.org/abs/1110.1556

      jmountView on HNParent context

    • Russian-style competition math has something of a sad history, see for example https://arxiv.org/abs/1110.1556 (This is not an argument that whatever “Russian-style” math program espoused here is “bad,” it’s additional historical context that HNer’s may be interested in.)

      TimorousBestieView on HNParent context

    • America used to do that, but Jewish students started taking (and doing well on) the test, and later Black and Asian students had the audacity to be brilliant too. This led to America's "holistic" college admissions process. For what it's worth, the USA isn't unique in adapting…

      MengerSpongeView on HNParent context

    • In a similar vein, linked are math questions Russian universities would give to Jewish students to filter them out in entrance exams. https://arxiv.org/abs/1110.1556

      terminalbraidView on HNParent context

    • > like we are stuck in a cargo-cult mentality where we are just doing things because that’s what the big companies do, and if it works for them it must be what we need to do. Absolutely. They do leet code -- we must as well. Google is laying people off -- so must we. Steve Jobs…

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  1. The math exams of my life 1 comment
    • One of my grandmothers, born about 100 years ago in Romania (she’s not with us anymore), told me many times she was denied from pursuing math education because of then Nazi policies of “numerus nulus” i.e. the exclusion of jews from public universities. There’s a fascinating…

      gregsadetskyView on HNParent context

    • I don't support the idea the guy was spouting, but there is an interesting article about "Jewish problems", which were questions asked to undesirable (including Jewish) candidates at universities in the Soviet Union (in this case Moscow State University after 6 days' war) - PDF…

      isbvhodnvemrwvnView on HNParent context

    • But also pretty good at excluding for example Jews from certain prestigious schools, see: https://arxiv.org/abs/1110.1556

      TrackerFFView on HNParent context

    • I’m referring to the easy looking, tricky to solve problems. I’ve heard them referred to by that term because they have been used at Moscow University to discriminate against Jewish students but I don’t know if they have other names. There is some discussions and examples of…

      ZnafonView on HNParent context

    • Your theory has been seen before in other contexts - https://arxiv.org/abs/1110.1556 The Mathematics Department of Moscow State University, the most prestigious mathematics school in Russia, was [around 1975] actively trying to keep Jewish students (and other “undesirables”)…

      elahiehView on HNParent context

    • Similarly, https://arxiv.org/abs/1110.1556 - the "Jewish Problems" that were extra-hard maths questions used to find an excuse to prevent certain students from getting into university.

      mnw21camView on HNParent context

    • You can find here https://arxiv.org/abs/1110.1556 infamous "Jewish Problems" that were given to select applicants during entrance exams to the math department of Moscow State University. They were designed to prevent Jews from getting a passing grade.

      playing_coloursView on HNParent context

    • They used to present applying Jews with special problems: https://arxiv.org/abs/1110.1556 This practice was supposed to end with sovient union — but my school, which always had a fair share of jews that applied to math department in MSU, taught those in 00s, and athough…

      golergkaView on HNParent context

  2. Ridiculous Math Problems 1 comment
    • For more ridiculous math problems I want to submit: The Jewish Problems[0]. These were used when Jewish people were trying to get into grad school in Russia in the '70's. Basically designed so Jewish people wouldn't get in. [0] https://arxiv.org/abs/1110.1556

      godelskiView on HNParent context

    • Tanya Khovanova has a paper https://arxiv.org/abs/1110.1556 with a list of some more of these problems with easy solutions that are hard to find. She calls them "Jewish Problems" because they were used by USSR universities to discriminate against Jewish applicants. The…

      OscarCunninghamView on HNParent context

    • There's lots of sneaky ways they tried to limit Jewish access to higher eduction in Russia. Jewish Problems, for example: https://arxiv.org/abs/1110.1556

      narratorView on HNParent context

    • This reminds me of Jewish Problems[0], designed to "prevent Jews and other undesirables from getting a passing grade" at the entrance exams to the math department of Moscow State University. [0] https://arxiv.org/abs/1110.1556

      spythonView on HNParent context

    • > "Leningrad University’s maths department had a quota of two Jews per year among 350 students. Its Moscow equivalent was more zealous and actively investigated all candidates for traces of a Jewish background. Students with Jewish sounding names were refused entry, just in…

      394549View on HNParent context

    • I would not take excuses like this for rejecting a candidate, especially a highly qualified/skilled candidate, at face value. Despite the pervasive rhetoric about wanting the "best" or hiring only the "best," both individual interviewers and companies as a whole are often afraid…

      NumberSixView on HNParent context

    • I'm not sure if you are making an intentional reference to this or not, but it does make an interesting counter-point to the assertion that mathematics is a meritocracy: http://arxiv.org/abs/1110.1556 "This is a special collection of problems that were given to select applicants…

      CritoView on HNParent context

    • Regarding immigration: I don't know if there was much selection bias as we were in the immigration queue for 10 years before being selected. The Anti-Defamation League told Bill Clinton that the situation in Russia was getting worse (1996), and he increased the annual quota of…

      ivoloView on HNParent context

    • Some basic facts about college admission in the United States: 1) Most colleges admit large numbers of students who are officially reported as "race/ethnicity unknown." 2) The definition of "race" categories in current United States regulations is arbitrary, acknowledged by the…

      tokenadultView on HNParent context

  3. Jewish Problems 1 comment
    • About a year ago I read a paper that listed a number of those "Jewish Problems" (ambiguous or hard problems given at entrance exams). For those interested - http://arxiv.org/abs/1110.1556

      liniView on HNParent context

    • Guess they should use "Asian Problems"? http://arxiv.org/abs/1110.1556 http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=3096793

      eneveuView on HNParent context

  4. Jewish problems 1 comment
    • > ...these problems are distinguished by having a simple solution that is difficult to find. Like the place to view the problems, for me at least: PDF http://arxiv.org/pdf/1110.1556v1

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