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Queues Are Databases — mentioned by srhtftw

Wed, 19 Feb 2025 17:03:36 GMT

> Famious last words. These weren't his last words, but Jim Gray had this to say about this so-called "antipattern". Queues Are Databases (1995) Message-oriented-middleware (MOM) has become an small industry. MOM offers queued transaction processing as an advance over pure client-server transaction processing. This note makes four points: Queued transaction processing is less general than direct transaction processing. Queued systems are built on top of direct systems. You cannot build a direct system atop a queued system. It is difficult to build direct, conversational, or distributed…

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Queues Are Databases — HN submission

Fri, 03 Jul 2020 21:37:30 GMT

Queues are Databases (1995)

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Queues Are Databases — mentioned by dwenzek

Mon, 18 May 2020 12:46:47 GMT

> Kafka is a message broker. It’s not a database and it’s not close to being a database. Kafka is somehow a database, even if specialized on logs of events. For a similar discussion, I would refer to Jim Gray "Queues Are Databases" https://arxiv.org/pdf/cs/0701158.pdf.

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