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<rss version="2.0" xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom"><channel><title>Clustering by compression · HackerPapers discussions</title><link>https://hackerpaper.kaipfister.de/p/cs_0312044/</link><description>Collected HN comments and submissions linking this paper.</description><language>en</language><lastBuildDate>Mon, 02 Nov 2026 11:16:22 GMT</lastBuildDate><atom:link href="https://hackerpaper.kaipfister.de/p/cs_0312044/feed.xml" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" /><item><title>Clustering by compression — mentioned by Kim_Bruning</title><link>https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40941168</link><guid isPermaLink="false">urn:hackerpapers:mention:cs_0312044:40941168</guid><pubDate>Thu, 11 Jul 2024 22:25:56 GMT</pubDate><description>&lt;p&gt;Thank you for talking with me! I do realize the benefits of the &amp;#x27;compression&amp;#x27; model of ML. Sometimes you can even use compression directly, like here: https://arxiv.org/abs/cs/0312044 . I suppose you&amp;#x27;re right that you only need a few substantively similar outputs to potentially get sued already. (depending on who&amp;#x27;s scrutinizing you). While talking with you, it occurred to me that so far we&amp;#x27;ve ignored the output set o, which is the set of all images output by -say- stable diffusion. n can then be defined as n = m ∩ o . And we know m is much larger than n, and o is theoretically practically…&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="https://hackerpaper.kaipfister.de/p/cs_0312044/"&gt;Paper and discussion history&lt;/a&gt;. A mention is not an endorsement.&lt;/p&gt;</description><category>cs.CV</category></item><item><title>Clustering by compression — mentioned by nextos</title><link>https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36709941</link><guid isPermaLink="false">urn:hackerpapers:mention:cs_0312044:36709941</guid><pubDate>Thu, 13 Jul 2023 14:43:11 GMT</pubDate><description>&lt;p&gt;Something important to note is that the authors use normalized compression distance (NCD). NCD is a way to approximate Kolmogorov complexity. This is a pretty old idea, see [1,2]. Old but still very useful, like perceptrons. [1] Li and Vitanyi. An Introduction to Kolmogorov Complexity and Its Applications. [2] Clustering by compression. https://arxiv.org/pdf/cs/0312044&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="https://hackerpaper.kaipfister.de/p/cs_0312044/"&gt;Paper and discussion history&lt;/a&gt;. A mention is not an endorsement.&lt;/p&gt;</description><category>cs.CV</category></item><item><title>Clustering by compression — mentioned by sischoel</title><link>https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27044274</link><guid isPermaLink="false">urn:hackerpapers:mention:cs_0312044:27044274</guid><pubDate>Tue, 04 May 2021 23:42:52 GMT</pubDate><description>&lt;p&gt;This article is surprisingly short on actual applications. For some interesting applications one might look at the the Wikipedia article for the normalized compression distance: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Normalized_compression_distanc... This paper here shows some interesting applications - it is not the first one, but the first non-paywalled one that I found: https://arxiv.org/pdf/cs/0312044.pdf There is also a book by Paul Vitanyi - it has been a while since I looked at it, but if I remember correctly it also discusses some of these applications…&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="https://hackerpaper.kaipfister.de/p/cs_0312044/"&gt;Paper and discussion history&lt;/a&gt;. A mention is not an endorsement.&lt;/p&gt;</description><category>cs.CV</category></item><item><title>Clustering by compression — mentioned by bediger4000</title><link>https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=18578841</link><guid isPermaLink="false">urn:hackerpapers:mention:cs_0312044:18578841</guid><pubDate>Sat, 01 Dec 2018 20:48:17 GMT</pubDate><description>&lt;p&gt;The author of the article would have been wise to include this information. I did find &amp;quot;Clustering by Compression&amp;quot;, https://arxiv.org/abs/cs/0312044 The emphasis in this paper was not on &amp;quot;efficiency&amp;quot;, but rather on phylogenetic grouping. The authors used the &amp;quot;Universal Declaration of Human Rights&amp;quot;, which apparently has 52 translations as the subject text. See Fig 13 and section 5.2 for details. Instead of just compressing and normalizing, they developed a normalized compression distance, which involves concatenating two texts, compression, and division by the largest of the two texts, as…&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="https://hackerpaper.kaipfister.de/p/cs_0312044/"&gt;Paper and discussion history&lt;/a&gt;. A mention is not an endorsement.&lt;/p&gt;</description><category>cs.CV</category></item><item><title>Clustering by compression — mentioned by jkabrg</title><link>https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17737063</link><guid isPermaLink="false">urn:hackerpapers:mention:cs_0312044:17737063</guid><pubDate>Fri, 10 Aug 2018 22:06:05 GMT</pubDate><description>&lt;p&gt;I guess it provides an objective definition of when something is simple or complicated. This could have applications in statistics or machine learning, where &amp;quot;simpler&amp;quot; hypotheses could be less likely to overfit. There are computable measures of &amp;quot;simplicity&amp;quot; (unlike Kolmogorov complexity) based on compression algorithms or computation time (Levin complexity). There are also apparently connections to statistical mechanics, but I haven&amp;#x27;t looked into it and I don&amp;#x27;t know if it&amp;#x27;s useful. See this paper on how to cluster using compression: https://arxiv.org/pdf/cs/0312044.pdf&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="https://hackerpaper.kaipfister.de/p/cs_0312044/"&gt;Paper and discussion history&lt;/a&gt;. A mention is not an endorsement.&lt;/p&gt;</description><category>cs.CV</category></item></channel></rss>
