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<rss version="2.0" xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom"><channel><title>Where does output diversity collapse in post-training? · HackerPapers discussions</title><link>https://hackerpaper.kaipfister.de/p/2604.16027/</link><description>Collected HN comments and submissions linking this paper.</description><language>en</language><lastBuildDate>Mon, 02 Nov 2026 11:16:22 GMT</lastBuildDate><atom:link href="https://hackerpaper.kaipfister.de/p/2604.16027/feed.xml" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" /><item><title>Where does output diversity collapse in post-training? — mentioned by stratos123</title><link>https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=50106865</link><guid isPermaLink="false">urn:hackerpapers:mention:2604.16027:50106865</guid><pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2026 17:12:56 GMT</pubDate><description>&lt;p&gt;&amp;gt; Interesting. I&amp;#x27;d love to see a paper on this. The first time I personally heard of RLHF ruining some model qualities was actually in the GPT-4 paper (march 2023); figure 8 there shows that the base model has near-perfect calibration on multiple-choice questions (!) and this stops being true for the RLHFed model: https://arxiv.org/abs/2303.08774v6 I think this is the same sort of problem - that the miscalibration of RLHFed models also explains their lack of diversity. In the training dataset, for a prompt like &amp;quot;you&amp;#x27;re a helpful assistant, yadda yadda, write a site&amp;quot;, there&amp;#x27;s a large range of…&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="https://hackerpaper.kaipfister.de/p/2604.16027/"&gt;Paper and discussion history&lt;/a&gt;. A mention is not an endorsement.&lt;/p&gt;</description><category>cs.CL</category></item></channel></rss>
