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<rss version="2.0" xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom"><channel><title>AI Assistance Reduces Persistence and Hurts Independent Performance · HackerPapers discussions</title><link>https://hackerpaper.kaipfister.de/p/2604.04721/</link><description>Collected HN comments and submissions linking this paper.</description><language>en</language><lastBuildDate>Mon, 02 Nov 2026 11:16:22 GMT</lastBuildDate><atom:link href="https://hackerpaper.kaipfister.de/p/2604.04721/feed.xml" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" /><item><title>AI Assistance Reduces Persistence and Hurts Independent Performance — HN submission</title><link>https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=50221762</link><guid isPermaLink="false">urn:hackerpapers:submission:2604.04721:50221762</guid><pubDate>Sat, 24 Oct 2026 14:45:29 GMT</pubDate><description>&lt;p&gt;AI Assistance Reduces Persistence and Hurts Independent Performance&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;2 points; 0 discussion replies on HN. &lt;a href="https://hackerpaper.kaipfister.de/p/2604.04721/"&gt;Paper and source history&lt;/a&gt;. A submission is not an endorsement.&lt;/p&gt;</description><category>cs.AI</category></item><item><title>AI Assistance Reduces Persistence and Hurts Independent Performance — HN submission</title><link>https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=50153425</link><guid isPermaLink="false">urn:hackerpapers:submission:2604.04721:50153425</guid><pubDate>Mon, 19 Oct 2026 15:09:54 GMT</pubDate><description>&lt;p&gt;AI Assistance Reduces Persistence and Hurts Independent Performance&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;2 points; 0 discussion replies on HN. &lt;a href="https://hackerpaper.kaipfister.de/p/2604.04721/"&gt;Paper and source history&lt;/a&gt;. A submission is not an endorsement.&lt;/p&gt;</description><category>cs.AI</category></item><item><title>AI Assistance Reduces Persistence and Hurts Independent Performance — mentioned by rahimnathwani</title><link>https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=50050662</link><guid isPermaLink="false">urn:hackerpapers:mention:2604.04721:50050662</guid><pubDate>Mon, 12 Oct 2026 02:37:42 GMT</pubDate><description>&lt;p&gt;The article title is not supported by the evidence presented in the paper (https://arxiv.org/pdf/2604.04721). The evidence for reduced persistence is kinda weak. The strongest experimental result in the paper is: if people use AI to help solve a series of problems, and then the AI is suddenly taken away, they perform worse on subsequent problems than people who hadn&amp;#x27;t been using AI for the earlier questions. But: - They&amp;#x27;re looking at really really short-term effects, like seconds or minutes. That&amp;#x27;s not really interesting if we care about long term effects (which is what the abstract says is…&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="https://hackerpaper.kaipfister.de/p/2604.04721/"&gt;Paper and discussion history&lt;/a&gt;. A mention is not an endorsement.&lt;/p&gt;</description><category>cs.AI</category></item><item><title>AI Assistance Reduces Persistence and Hurts Independent Performance — mentioned by atkrista</title><link>https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=50042062</link><guid isPermaLink="false">urn:hackerpapers:mention:2604.04721:50042062</guid><pubDate>Sun, 11 Oct 2026 11:30:46 GMT</pubDate><description>&lt;p&gt;Link to the paper: https://arxiv.org/pdf/2604.04721&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="https://hackerpaper.kaipfister.de/p/2604.04721/"&gt;Paper and discussion history&lt;/a&gt;. A mention is not an endorsement.&lt;/p&gt;</description><category>cs.AI</category></item><item><title>AI Assistance Reduces Persistence and Hurts Independent Performance — HN submission</title><link>https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=50033262</link><guid isPermaLink="false">urn:hackerpapers:submission:2604.04721:50033262</guid><pubDate>Sat, 10 Oct 2026 14:16:57 GMT</pubDate><description>&lt;p&gt;AI Assistance Reduces Persistence and Hurts Independent Performance&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;2 points; 0 discussion replies on HN. &lt;a href="https://hackerpaper.kaipfister.de/p/2604.04721/"&gt;Paper and source history&lt;/a&gt;. A submission is not an endorsement.&lt;/p&gt;</description><category>cs.AI</category></item><item><title>AI Assistance Reduces Persistence and Hurts Independent Performance — mentioned by dannersy</title><link>https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48945324</link><guid isPermaLink="false">urn:hackerpapers:mention:2604.04721:48945324</guid><pubDate>Fri, 17 Jul 2026 09:53:06 GMT</pubDate><description>&lt;p&gt;I think folks ITT are trivializing the issue here. Many keep drawing parallels to LLMs being akin to the loom or calculator. That seems intellectually dishonest to me. Those tools were not anthropomorphized interfaces, nor were they instant gratification. To do significant things with a calculator, you still had to know maths, order of operations, formulas, etc. We didn&amp;#x27;t lose mathematicians as a result of the calculator, nor did the calculator play with our emotions. I have linked this elsewhere in this thread, but the studies on this matter suggest a worse outcome than just losing hand…&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="https://hackerpaper.kaipfister.de/p/2604.04721/"&gt;Paper and discussion history&lt;/a&gt;. A mention is not an endorsement.&lt;/p&gt;</description><category>cs.AI</category></item><item><title>AI Assistance Reduces Persistence and Hurts Independent Performance — mentioned by dannersy</title><link>https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48944145</link><guid isPermaLink="false">urn:hackerpapers:mention:2604.04721:48944145</guid><pubDate>Fri, 17 Jul 2026 06:58:38 GMT</pubDate><description>&lt;p&gt;Your suspicion is already being studied with increased effort, and the starting point has solid bones: https://arxiv.org/pdf/2604.04721 For what it is worth, my colleagues who use these tools more liberally see a much higher regression rate and are left refactoring more as well. While they definitely put out more PRs, I can confidently say that mine are more valuable and better stand the test of time. Whether that matters or not is up to debate as I guess you could argue there may be some point where the productivity overcomes their regression rate. My position is, if the technology will be…&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="https://hackerpaper.kaipfister.de/p/2604.04721/"&gt;Paper and discussion history&lt;/a&gt;. A mention is not an endorsement.&lt;/p&gt;</description><category>cs.AI</category></item><item><title>AI Assistance Reduces Persistence and Hurts Independent Performance — mentioned by dannersy</title><link>https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48242036</link><guid isPermaLink="false">urn:hackerpapers:mention:2604.04721:48242036</guid><pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2026 21:39:57 GMT</pubDate><description>&lt;p&gt;https://arxiv.org/pdf/2604.04721&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="https://hackerpaper.kaipfister.de/p/2604.04721/"&gt;Paper and discussion history&lt;/a&gt;. A mention is not an endorsement.&lt;/p&gt;</description><category>cs.AI</category></item><item><title>AI Assistance Reduces Persistence and Hurts Independent Performance — HN submission</title><link>https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47874791</link><guid isPermaLink="false">urn:hackerpapers:submission:2604.04721:47874791</guid><pubDate>Thu, 23 Apr 2026 12:10:00 GMT</pubDate><description>&lt;p&gt;AI Assistance Reduces Persistence and Hurts Independent Performance&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;2 points; 0 discussion replies on HN. &lt;a href="https://hackerpaper.kaipfister.de/p/2604.04721/"&gt;Paper and source history&lt;/a&gt;. A submission is not an endorsement.&lt;/p&gt;</description><category>cs.AI</category></item><item><title>AI Assistance Reduces Persistence and Hurts Independent Performance — mentioned by ai-tamer</title><link>https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47827748</link><guid isPermaLink="false">urn:hackerpapers:mention:2604.04721:47827748</guid><pubDate>Sun, 19 Apr 2026 21:23:50 GMT</pubDate><description>&lt;p&gt;https://arxiv.org/abs/2604.04721 I like it when researchers confirm my intuition&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="https://hackerpaper.kaipfister.de/p/2604.04721/"&gt;Paper and discussion history&lt;/a&gt;. A mention is not an endorsement.&lt;/p&gt;</description><category>cs.AI</category></item><item><title>AI Assistance Reduces Persistence and Hurts Independent Performance — HN submission</title><link>https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47827276</link><guid isPermaLink="false">urn:hackerpapers:submission:2604.04721:47827276</guid><pubDate>Sun, 19 Apr 2026 20:12:26 GMT</pubDate><description>&lt;p&gt;AI Assistance Reduces Persistence and Hurts Independent Performance&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;4 points; 0 discussion replies on HN. &lt;a href="https://hackerpaper.kaipfister.de/p/2604.04721/"&gt;Paper and source history&lt;/a&gt;. A submission is not an endorsement.&lt;/p&gt;</description><category>cs.AI</category></item><item><title>AI Assistance Reduces Persistence and Hurts Independent Performance — mentioned by 1vuio0pswjnm7</title><link>https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47798560</link><guid isPermaLink="false">urn:hackerpapers:mention:2604.04721:47798560</guid><pubDate>Thu, 16 Apr 2026 19:48:45 GMT</pubDate><description>&lt;p&gt;https://arxiv.org/html/2604.04721v2&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="https://hackerpaper.kaipfister.de/p/2604.04721/"&gt;Paper and discussion history&lt;/a&gt;. A mention is not an endorsement.&lt;/p&gt;</description><category>cs.AI</category></item><item><title>AI Assistance Reduces Persistence and Hurts Independent Performance — mentioned by ChrisArchitect</title><link>https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47795522</link><guid isPermaLink="false">urn:hackerpapers:mention:2604.04721:47795522</guid><pubDate>Thu, 16 Apr 2026 16:11:27 GMT</pubDate><description>&lt;p&gt;Source: https://arxiv.org/abs/2604.04721 (https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47682908)&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="https://hackerpaper.kaipfister.de/p/2604.04721/"&gt;Paper and discussion history&lt;/a&gt;. A mention is not an endorsement.&lt;/p&gt;</description><category>cs.AI</category></item><item><title>AI Assistance Reduces Persistence and Hurts Independent Performance — mentioned by keysersoze33</title><link>https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47794026</link><guid isPermaLink="false">urn:hackerpapers:mention:2604.04721:47794026</guid><pubDate>Thu, 16 Apr 2026 14:55:38 GMT</pubDate><description>&lt;p&gt;Link to the preprint paper: https://arxiv.org/pdf/2604.04721 Worth reading the conclusion - makes a good point or two regarding the cumulative effect of using AI and not only the loss of the learning through struggle/time, but also the reference point of how long tasks should take without AI (e.g. we are no willing longer afford the time to learn the hard way, which will impact the younger generation notably).&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="https://hackerpaper.kaipfister.de/p/2604.04721/"&gt;Paper and discussion history&lt;/a&gt;. A mention is not an endorsement.&lt;/p&gt;</description><category>cs.AI</category></item><item><title>AI Assistance Reduces Persistence and Hurts Independent Performance — HN submission</title><link>https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47682908</link><guid isPermaLink="false">urn:hackerpapers:submission:2604.04721:47682908</guid><pubDate>Wed, 08 Apr 2026 00:00:42 GMT</pubDate><description>&lt;p&gt;AI Assistance Reduces Persistence and Hurts Independent Performance&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;20 points; 4 discussion replies on HN. &lt;a href="https://hackerpaper.kaipfister.de/p/2604.04721/"&gt;Paper and source history&lt;/a&gt;. A submission is not an endorsement.&lt;/p&gt;</description><category>cs.AI</category></item></channel></rss>
