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<rss version="2.0" xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom"><channel><title>Rethinking the Value of Agent-Generated Tests for LLM-Based Software Engineering Agents · HackerPapers discussions</title><link>https://hackerpaper.kaipfister.de/p/2602.07900/</link><description>Collected HN comments and submissions linking this paper.</description><language>en</language><lastBuildDate>Mon, 02 Nov 2026 11:16:22 GMT</lastBuildDate><atom:link href="https://hackerpaper.kaipfister.de/p/2602.07900/feed.xml" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" /><item><title>Rethinking the Value of Agent-Generated Tests for LLM-Based Software Engineering Agents — mentioned by gregwebs</title><link>https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49953414</link><guid isPermaLink="false">urn:hackerpapers:mention:2602.07900:49953414</guid><pubDate>Sun, 04 Oct 2026 12:39:03 GMT</pubDate><description>&lt;p&gt;The value of TDD is it does ensure that tests are written and that will help with future regressions. However, I found the same problems with agents that it has with humans (usually with humans it isn&amp;#x27;t TDD but code coverage requirements). The problem is the tests are now written to satisfy a bureaucracy rather than to properly verify the code. And there are real studies that point out the low value of these types of bureaucratic testing requirements. For example, when models are just required to write a test file, they don&amp;#x27;t produce a better result: https://arxiv.org/abs/2602.07900 I wrote a…&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="https://hackerpaper.kaipfister.de/p/2602.07900/"&gt;Paper and discussion history&lt;/a&gt;. A mention is not an endorsement.&lt;/p&gt;</description><category>cs.SE</category></item><item><title>Rethinking the Value of Agent-Generated Tests for LLM-Based Software Engineering Agents — mentioned by zuzululu</title><link>https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48674904</link><guid isPermaLink="false">urn:hackerpapers:mention:2602.07900:48674904</guid><pubDate>Thu, 25 Jun 2026 15:30:02 GMT</pubDate><description>&lt;p&gt;yup and I find it weird that people still remain so defensive of the Church of TDD even against empirical studies that show its limited benefits https://arxiv.org/abs/2602.07900&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="https://hackerpaper.kaipfister.de/p/2602.07900/"&gt;Paper and discussion history&lt;/a&gt;. A mention is not an endorsement.&lt;/p&gt;</description><category>cs.SE</category></item><item><title>Rethinking the Value of Agent-Generated Tests for LLM-Based Software Engineering Agents — mentioned by rsalus</title><link>https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48427610</link><guid isPermaLink="false">urn:hackerpapers:mention:2602.07900:48427610</guid><pubDate>Sat, 06 Jun 2026 18:31:25 GMT</pubDate><description>&lt;p&gt;for LLMs, TDD amounts to little more than ceremony. there is a study on this exact topic: https://arxiv.org/pdf/2602.07900&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="https://hackerpaper.kaipfister.de/p/2602.07900/"&gt;Paper and discussion history&lt;/a&gt;. A mention is not an endorsement.&lt;/p&gt;</description><category>cs.SE</category></item><item><title>Rethinking the Value of Agent-Generated Tests for LLM-Based Software Engineering Agents — HN submission</title><link>https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48420529</link><guid isPermaLink="false">urn:hackerpapers:submission:2602.07900:48420529</guid><pubDate>Sat, 06 Jun 2026 01:39:40 GMT</pubDate><description>&lt;p&gt;Rethinking the Value of Generated Tests for LLM Software Engineering Agents&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;2 points; 0 discussion replies on HN. &lt;a href="https://hackerpaper.kaipfister.de/p/2602.07900/"&gt;Paper and source history&lt;/a&gt;. A submission is not an endorsement.&lt;/p&gt;</description><category>cs.SE</category></item><item><title>Rethinking the Value of Agent-Generated Tests for LLM-Based Software Engineering Agents — mentioned by rsalus</title><link>https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48419659</link><guid isPermaLink="false">urn:hackerpapers:mention:2602.07900:48419659</guid><pubDate>Fri, 05 Jun 2026 23:24:47 GMT</pubDate><description>&lt;p&gt;I was a big proponent of encoding TDD red-green-refactor methodology into my agent workflows until recently when I made the same realization after reading this study: https://arxiv.org/pdf/2602.07900 TLDR; it found test-writing volume only weakly correlates with success and that encoding test-writing principles did not move resolution rates but _did_ materially change cost. Encouraging tests cost +19.8% output tokens for 0% gain; discouraging them saved 33–49% input tokens for ≤2.6pp accuracy loss. Separately, imposing the TDD procedure specifically seems like it can backfire: it actually…&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="https://hackerpaper.kaipfister.de/p/2602.07900/"&gt;Paper and discussion history&lt;/a&gt;. A mention is not an endorsement.&lt;/p&gt;</description><category>cs.SE</category></item></channel></rss>
