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<rss version="2.0" xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom"><channel><title>Weird Generalization and Inductive Backdoors: New Ways to Corrupt LLMs · HackerPapers discussions</title><link>https://hackerpaper.kaipfister.de/p/2512.09742/</link><description>Collected HN comments and submissions linking this paper.</description><language>en</language><lastBuildDate>Mon, 02 Nov 2026 11:16:22 GMT</lastBuildDate><atom:link href="https://hackerpaper.kaipfister.de/p/2512.09742/feed.xml" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" /><item><title>Weird Generalization and Inductive Backdoors: New Ways to Corrupt LLMs — mentioned by stratos123</title><link>https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49080233</link><guid isPermaLink="false">urn:hackerpapers:mention:2512.09742:49080233</guid><pubDate>Tue, 28 Jul 2026 06:44:41 GMT</pubDate><description>&lt;p&gt;Several of your proposals would make sense if alignment was trivial, but, sorry, I think you&amp;#x27;re wrong about that. A base model is absolutely not aligned. Pretraining doesn&amp;#x27;t teach an LLM to mimic the average human - doing so would make an LLM perform quite badly at predicting most of the dataset. It teaches it to mimic all possible humans¹, inferring what sort of persona to take depending on the context. A base model can indeed convincingly act like an &amp;quot;average person in the developed world&amp;quot;, including by making the same sort of moral decisions that such a person would do... but it can also…&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="https://hackerpaper.kaipfister.de/p/2512.09742/"&gt;Paper and discussion history&lt;/a&gt;. A mention is not an endorsement.&lt;/p&gt;</description><category>cs.CL</category></item><item><title>Weird Generalization and Inductive Backdoors: New Ways to Corrupt LLMs — HN submission</title><link>https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46858901</link><guid isPermaLink="false">urn:hackerpapers:submission:2512.09742:46858901</guid><pubDate>Mon, 02 Feb 2026 17:51:00 GMT</pubDate><description>&lt;p&gt;Weird Generalization and Inductive Backdoors: New Ways to Corrupt LLMs&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;3 points; 0 discussion replies on HN. &lt;a href="https://hackerpaper.kaipfister.de/p/2512.09742/"&gt;Paper and source history&lt;/a&gt;. A submission is not an endorsement.&lt;/p&gt;</description><category>cs.CL</category></item><item><title>Weird Generalization and Inductive Backdoors: New Ways to Corrupt LLMs — mentioned by pseudohadamard</title><link>https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46597839</link><guid isPermaLink="false">urn:hackerpapers:mention:2512.09742:46597839</guid><pubDate>Tue, 13 Jan 2026 06:25:02 GMT</pubDate><description>&lt;p&gt;It&amp;#x27;s already been done, without the model being aware of it, see https://arxiv.org/abs/2512.09742. They also made it think it was Hitler (not MechaHitler, the other guy), and other craziness. It&amp;#x27;s a relief to think that we&amp;#x27;re not trusting these things for stuff like financial advice, medical advice, mental health counselling, ...&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="https://hackerpaper.kaipfister.de/p/2512.09742/"&gt;Paper and discussion history&lt;/a&gt;. A mention is not an endorsement.&lt;/p&gt;</description><category>cs.CL</category></item><item><title>Weird Generalization and Inductive Backdoors: New Ways to Corrupt LLMs — HN submission</title><link>https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46526423</link><guid isPermaLink="false">urn:hackerpapers:submission:2512.09742:46526423</guid><pubDate>Wed, 07 Jan 2026 13:59:48 GMT</pubDate><description>&lt;p&gt;Weird Generalization and Inductive Backdoors: New Ways to Corrupt LLMs&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;3 points; 0 discussion replies on HN. &lt;a href="https://hackerpaper.kaipfister.de/p/2512.09742/"&gt;Paper and source history&lt;/a&gt;. A submission is not an endorsement.&lt;/p&gt;</description><category>cs.CL</category></item><item><title>Weird Generalization and Inductive Backdoors: New Ways to Corrupt LLMs — mentioned by FeepingCreature</title><link>https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46302052</link><guid isPermaLink="false">urn:hackerpapers:mention:2512.09742:46302052</guid><pubDate>Wed, 17 Dec 2025 16:56:39 GMT</pubDate><description>&lt;p&gt;At least with finetuning, yes: https://arxiv.org/abs/2512.09742 It&amp;#x27;s unclear if this technique could also work with in-prompt data.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="https://hackerpaper.kaipfister.de/p/2512.09742/"&gt;Paper and discussion history&lt;/a&gt;. A mention is not an endorsement.&lt;/p&gt;</description><category>cs.CL</category></item><item><title>Weird Generalization and Inductive Backdoors: New Ways to Corrupt LLMs — HN submission</title><link>https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46298555</link><guid isPermaLink="false">urn:hackerpapers:submission:2512.09742:46298555</guid><pubDate>Wed, 17 Dec 2025 05:21:01 GMT</pubDate><description>&lt;p&gt;Weird Generalization and Inductive Backdoors: New Ways to Corrupt LLMs&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;7 points; 1 discussion reply on HN. &lt;a href="https://hackerpaper.kaipfister.de/p/2512.09742/"&gt;Paper and source history&lt;/a&gt;. A submission is not an endorsement.&lt;/p&gt;</description><category>cs.CL</category></item><item><title>Weird Generalization and Inductive Backdoors: New Ways to Corrupt LLMs — HN submission</title><link>https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46265865</link><guid isPermaLink="false">urn:hackerpapers:submission:2512.09742:46265865</guid><pubDate>Sun, 14 Dec 2025 19:14:38 GMT</pubDate><description>&lt;p&gt;Weird Generalization and Inductive Backdoors: New Ways to Corrupt LLMs&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;3 points; 0 discussion replies on HN. &lt;a href="https://hackerpaper.kaipfister.de/p/2512.09742/"&gt;Paper and source history&lt;/a&gt;. A submission is not an endorsement.&lt;/p&gt;</description><category>cs.CL</category></item><item><title>Weird Generalization and Inductive Backdoors: New Ways to Corrupt LLMs — HN submission</title><link>https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46240321</link><guid isPermaLink="false">urn:hackerpapers:submission:2512.09742:46240321</guid><pubDate>Fri, 12 Dec 2025 02:47:46 GMT</pubDate><description>&lt;p&gt;Weird Generalization and Inductive Backdoors: New Ways to Corrupt LLMs&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;7 points; 2 discussion replies on HN. &lt;a href="https://hackerpaper.kaipfister.de/p/2512.09742/"&gt;Paper and source history&lt;/a&gt;. A submission is not an endorsement.&lt;/p&gt;</description><category>cs.CL</category></item><item><title>Weird Generalization and Inductive Backdoors: New Ways to Corrupt LLMs — HN submission</title><link>https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46227896</link><guid isPermaLink="false">urn:hackerpapers:submission:2512.09742:46227896</guid><pubDate>Thu, 11 Dec 2025 05:07:40 GMT</pubDate><description>&lt;p&gt;Weird Generalization and Inductive Backdoors: New Ways to Corrupt LLMs&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;1 point; 0 discussion replies on HN. &lt;a href="https://hackerpaper.kaipfister.de/p/2512.09742/"&gt;Paper and source history&lt;/a&gt;. A submission is not an endorsement.&lt;/p&gt;</description><category>cs.CL</category></item></channel></rss>
