https://hackerpaper.kaipfister.de/p/2511.00839/Collected HN comments and submissions linking this paper.enMon, 02 Nov 2026 11:27:26 GMThttps://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45824582urn:hackerpapers:submission:2511.00839:45824582Wed, 05 Nov 2025 16:13:16 GMT<p>Show HN: New eval from SWE-bench team evalutes LMs based on goals not tickets</p><p>Current evals test LMs on tasks: &quot;fix this bug,&quot; &quot;write a test&quot; But we code to achieve goals: maximize revenue, cut costs, win users Meet CodeClash: LMs compete via their codebases across multi-round tournaments to achieve high-level goals. Because real software dev isn’t about following instructions. It’s about achieving outcomes. Here&#x27;s how it works: Two LMs enter a tournament. Each maintains its own codebase. Every round: 1. Edit Phase: LMs modify their codebases however they like 2. Competition phase: Codebases battle in an arena. 3. Repeat The LM that wins the majority of rounds is…</p><p>5 points; 1 discussion reply on HN. <a href="https://hackerpaper.kaipfister.de/p/2511.00839/">Paper and source history</a>. A submission is not an endorsement.</p>cs.SE