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arXiv:2510.04871cs.LG

Less is More: Recursive Reasoning with Tiny Networks

Alexia Jolicoeur-Martineau

Abstract

Hierarchical Reasoning Model (HRM) is a novel approach using two small neural networks recursing at different frequencies. This biologically inspired method beats Large Language models (LLMs) on hard puzzle tasks such as Sudoku, Maze, and ARC-AGI while trained with small models (27M parameters) on small data (around 1000 examples). HRM holds great promise for solving hard problems with small networks, but it is not yet well understood and may be suboptimal. We propose Tiny Recursive Model (TRM), a much simpler recursive reasoning approach that achieves significantly higher generalization than HRM, while using a single tiny network with only 2 layers. With only 7M parameters, TRM obtains 45% test-accuracy on ARC-AGI-1 and 8% on ARC-AGI-2, higher than most LLMs (e.g., Deepseek R1, o3-mini, Gemini 2.5 Pro) with less than 0.01% of the parameters.

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cs.LGMachine Learning cs.AIArtificial Intelligence

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    • Sebastian Raschka has a good introductory piece on what Looped Transformers usually refer to in practice: https://magazine.sebastianraschka.com/p/gpt-6-astra-looped-t... One of the big points is that looped architectures don't necessarily remove CoT style reasoning. They…

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    • Referring to this paper: https://arxiv.org/pdf/2510.04871 My understanding: The Q-head predicts whether to stop early or not to reduce training times (by not always having to complete the full number of deep supervision steps). The complication: When working in batches…

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    • The TRM architecture models both the problem and the solution at the same time. You might find it an interesting read. https://arxiv.org/abs/2510.04871

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    • Yes it would require completely new hardware and most likely ditching gradient descent for alternative optimization methods, though I'm not convinced that we'd need to turn to discrete optimization. Some recent works that people might find interesting: - Evolution Strategies at…

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