Comment on The Illusion of Thinking: Understanding the Strengths and Limitations of Reasoning Models via the Lens of Problem Complexity · HackerPapers discussions

Comment on The Illusion of Thinking: Understanding the Strengths and Limitations of Reasoning Models via the Lens of Problem Complexity — mentioned by ben_w

Sat, 05 Jul 2025 17:38:09 GMT

> The Apple Paper: When the Illusion Breaks > Apple's recent research paper, The Illusion of Thinking, tested modern LLMs on classic logic puzzles—Tower of Hanoi, river-crossing tasks, and other structured reasoning challenges. > The results? Performance dropped to zero. > Children can solve these puzzles. AI could not. Ah, no. The AI that Apple tested in this paper did drop to zero, but on tasks where the output would exceed the length of the output context window (Tower of Hanoi when the towers are tall enough), or where the answer was "this is provably impossible" (some of the…

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Comment on The Illusion of Thinking: Understanding the Strengths and Limitations of Reasoning Models via the Lens of Problem Complexity — HN submission

Mon, 16 Jun 2025 23:50:42 GMT

The Illusion of the Illusion of Thinking

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Comment on The Illusion of Thinking: Understanding the Strengths and Limitations of Reasoning Models via the Lens of Problem Complexity — HN submission

Mon, 16 Jun 2025 06:46:47 GMT

The Illusion of the Illusion of Thinking – A Comment on Shojaee et al. (2025)

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Comment on The Illusion of Thinking: Understanding the Strengths and Limitations of Reasoning Models via the Lens of Problem Complexity — mentioned by avsteele

Sat, 14 Jun 2025 20:58:54 GMT

This doesn't rebut anything from the best critique of the Apple paper. https://arxiv.org/abs/2506.09250

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Comment on The Illusion of Thinking: Understanding the Strengths and Limitations of Reasoning Models via the Lens of Problem Complexity — mentioned by diimdeep

Sat, 14 Jun 2025 08:11:14 GMT

Here is another opinion on the original paper - Comment on The Illusion of Thinking: Understanding the Strengths and Limitations of Reasoning Models via the Lens of Problem Complexity https://arxiv.org/abs/2506.09250

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Comment on The Illusion of Thinking: Understanding the Strengths and Limitations of Reasoning Models via the Lens of Problem Complexity — HN submission

Sat, 14 Jun 2025 02:51:55 GMT

Comment on the Illusion of Thinking

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