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<rss version="2.0" xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom"><channel><title>RWKV-7 "Goose" with Expressive Dynamic State Evolution · HackerPapers discussions</title><link>https://hackerpaper.kaipfister.de/p/2503.14456/</link><description>Collected HN comments and submissions linking this paper.</description><language>en</language><lastBuildDate>Mon, 02 Nov 2026 11:16:22 GMT</lastBuildDate><atom:link href="https://hackerpaper.kaipfister.de/p/2503.14456/feed.xml" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" /><item><title>RWKV-7 "Goose" with Expressive Dynamic State Evolution — mentioned by Aedelon</title><link>https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47125545</link><guid isPermaLink="false">urn:hackerpapers:mention:2503.14456:47125545</guid><pubDate>Mon, 23 Feb 2026 17:30:50 GMT</pubDate><description>&lt;p&gt;Author here. The core claim: RWKV-7 (2.9B params, RNN) scores 72.8% avg across standard benchmarks vs LLaMA 3.2&amp;#x27;s 69.7% — trained on 3.1T tokens vs ~9T. Same parameter count, one-third the data. The more interesting result is architectural: RWKV-7 formally exceeds TC⁰, the complexity class bounding standard Transformers (Merrill &amp;amp; Sabharwal&amp;#x27;s proof in the paper). It solves state-tracking problems that fixed-depth attention provably cannot. Inference runs in O(1) memory per token — no KV cache. The hybrid variant (RWKV-X) hits 99.8% passkey retrieval at 64K and 1.37x Flash Attention v3…&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="https://hackerpaper.kaipfister.de/p/2503.14456/"&gt;Paper and discussion history&lt;/a&gt;. A mention is not an endorsement.&lt;/p&gt;</description><category>cs.CL</category></item><item><title>RWKV-7 "Goose" with Expressive Dynamic State Evolution — mentioned by cs702</title><link>https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46879585</link><guid isPermaLink="false">urn:hackerpapers:mention:2503.14456:46879585</guid><pubDate>Wed, 04 Feb 2026 00:28:22 GMT</pubDate><description>&lt;p&gt;&amp;gt; Who out there is working on ... infinite history? Many people are still working on improving RNNs, mostly in academia. Examples off the top of my head: * RWKV: https://arxiv.org/abs/2006.16236 / https://arxiv.org/abs/2404.05892 https://arxiv.org/abs/2305.13048 * Linear attention: https://arxiv.org/abs/2503.14456 * State space models: https://arxiv.org/abs/2312.00752 / https://arxiv.org/abs/2405.21060 * Linear RNNs: https://arxiv.org/abs/2410.01201 Industry OTOH has gone all-in on Transformers.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="https://hackerpaper.kaipfister.de/p/2503.14456/"&gt;Paper and discussion history&lt;/a&gt;. A mention is not an endorsement.&lt;/p&gt;</description><category>cs.CL</category></item></channel></rss>
