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<rss version="2.0" xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom"><channel><title>Can ChatGPT Learn to Count Letters? · HackerPapers discussions</title><link>https://hackerpaper.kaipfister.de/p/2502.16705/</link><description>Collected HN comments and submissions linking this paper.</description><language>en</language><lastBuildDate>Mon, 02 Nov 2026 11:16:22 GMT</lastBuildDate><atom:link href="https://hackerpaper.kaipfister.de/p/2502.16705/feed.xml" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" /><item><title>Can ChatGPT Learn to Count Letters? — mentioned by lossyalgo</title><link>https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45821261</link><guid isPermaLink="false">urn:hackerpapers:mention:2502.16705:45821261</guid><pubDate>Wed, 05 Nov 2025 10:00:43 GMT</pubDate><description>&lt;p&gt;LLMs were not designed to count letters[0] since they work with tokens, so whatever trick they are now doing behind the scenes to handle this case, can probably only handle this particular case. I wonder if it&amp;#x27;s now included in the system prompt. I asked ChatGPT and it said it&amp;#x27;s now using len(str) and some other python scripts to do the counting, but who knows what&amp;#x27;s actually happening behind the scenes. [0] https://arxiv.org/pdf/2502.16705&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="https://hackerpaper.kaipfister.de/p/2502.16705/"&gt;Paper and discussion history&lt;/a&gt;. A mention is not an endorsement.&lt;/p&gt;</description><category>cs.CL</category></item><item><title>Can ChatGPT Learn to Count Letters? — mentioned by lossyalgo</title><link>https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45816161</link><guid isPermaLink="false">urn:hackerpapers:mention:2502.16705:45816161</guid><pubDate>Tue, 04 Nov 2025 21:36:25 GMT</pubDate><description>&lt;p&gt;LLMs were not designed to count letters[0] since they work with tokens, so whatever trick they are now doing behind the scenes to handle this case, can probably only handle this particular case. I wonder if it&amp;#x27;s now included in the system prompt. I asked ChatGPT and it said it&amp;#x27;s now using len(str) and some other python scripts to do the counting, but who knows what&amp;#x27;s actually happening behind the scenes. [0] https://arxiv.org/pdf/2502.16705&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="https://hackerpaper.kaipfister.de/p/2502.16705/"&gt;Paper and discussion history&lt;/a&gt;. A mention is not an endorsement.&lt;/p&gt;</description><category>cs.CL</category></item></channel></rss>
