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<rss version="2.0" xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom"><channel><title>Small Models Struggle to Learn from Strong Reasoners · HackerPapers discussions</title><link>https://hackerpaper.kaipfister.de/p/2502.12143/</link><description>Collected HN comments and submissions linking this paper.</description><language>en</language><lastBuildDate>Mon, 02 Nov 2026 11:16:22 GMT</lastBuildDate><atom:link href="https://hackerpaper.kaipfister.de/p/2502.12143/feed.xml" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" /><item><title>Small Models Struggle to Learn from Strong Reasoners — mentioned by gertlabs</title><link>https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48204357</link><guid isPermaLink="false">urn:hackerpapers:mention:2502.12143:48204357</guid><pubDate>Wed, 20 May 2026 07:33:16 GMT</pubDate><description>&lt;p&gt;This is what we do at gertlabs.com - the foundation labs are actually starving for better data. Having quality data is not the same as having a lot of data. Human curated data / RLHF cannot scale to a 5T model and synthetic data pipelines are very much a work in progress in the industry. Some interesting notes: - Training a small model with large model output resulted in LESS improvement than distilling a less smart model onto the same small architecture [0]. We are starting to hit intelligence density limits in small models (&amp;lt;30B models may be nearing saturation now) - good RL environments…&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="https://hackerpaper.kaipfister.de/p/2502.12143/"&gt;Paper and discussion history&lt;/a&gt;. A mention is not an endorsement.&lt;/p&gt;</description><category>cs.AI</category></item></channel></rss>
