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Complete Chess Games Enable LLM Become A Chess Master — mentioned by red75prime

Mon, 29 Jun 2026 06:54:20 GMT

That is no one has bothered to finetune or RLVR GPT-5.5 on chess games. Even open-llama-3B can be finetuned to around 1700 Elo[1]. [1] https://arxiv.org/pdf/2501.17186

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Complete Chess Games Enable LLM Become A Chess Master — mentioned by famouswaffles

Thu, 19 Feb 2026 22:52:18 GMT

Relax. Anyone who's genuinely interested in the question will see with a few searches that LLMs can play chess fine, although the post-trained models mostly seem to be regressed. Problem is people are more interested in validating their own assumptions than anything else. https://arxiv.org/abs/2403.15498 https://arxiv.org/abs/2501.17186 https://github.com/adamkarvonen/chess_gpt_eval

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Complete Chess Games Enable LLM Become A Chess Master — mentioned by famouswaffles

Tue, 17 Feb 2026 20:18:54 GMT

>They still make these errors on anything that is out of distribution. There is literally a post in this thread linking to a chat where Sonnet failed a basic arithmetic puzzle: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47051286 I thought we were talking about actual arithmetic not silly puzzles, and there are many human adults that would fail this, nevermind children. >LLMs can match an example at exactly that trivial level because it can be predicted from context. However, if you construct a more complex example with several rules, especially with rules that have contradictions and have specified…

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Complete Chess Games Enable LLM Become A Chess Master — mentioned by tmnvdb

Wed, 13 Aug 2025 06:39:19 GMT

If you train an LLM on chess, it will learn that too. You don't need to explain the rules, just feed it chess games, and it will stop making illegal moves at some point. It is a clear example of an inferred world model from training. https://arxiv.org/abs/2501.17186 PS "Major commercial American LLM" is not very meaningful, you could be using GPT4o with that description.

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Complete Chess Games Enable LLM Become A Chess Master — mentioned by t0md4n

Sun, 10 Aug 2025 18:58:20 GMT

https://arxiv.org/abs/2501.17186

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