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<rss version="2.0" xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom"><channel><title>LLMs Know More Than They Show: On the Intrinsic Representation of LLM Hallucinations · HackerPapers discussions</title><link>https://hackerpaper.kaipfister.de/p/2410.02707/</link><description>Collected HN comments and submissions linking this paper.</description><language>en</language><lastBuildDate>Mon, 02 Nov 2026 11:16:22 GMT</lastBuildDate><atom:link href="https://hackerpaper.kaipfister.de/p/2410.02707/feed.xml" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" /><item><title>LLMs Know More Than They Show: On the Intrinsic Representation of LLM Hallucinations — mentioned by dofm</title><link>https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49128674</link><guid isPermaLink="false">urn:hackerpapers:mention:2410.02707:49128674</guid><pubDate>Fri, 31 Jul 2026 21:23:08 GMT</pubDate><description>&lt;p&gt;You certainly can&amp;#x27;t ask an LLM for its confidence level because it will generate that answer as it sees fit. My understanding was that models can be post-trained to assess their own confidence on short prompts within a level of accuracy (there was an article about this a few weeks ago that I can&amp;#x27;t find), but can&amp;#x27;t use it to reason, and that research has shown that internally they effectively have a measurable sense of truth but can&amp;#x27;t surface it: https://arxiv.org/abs/2410.02707 I mangled what I was trying to say but the point I guess is, it is effectively in there, and researchers can see it…&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="https://hackerpaper.kaipfister.de/p/2410.02707/"&gt;Paper and discussion history&lt;/a&gt;. A mention is not an endorsement.&lt;/p&gt;</description><category>cs.CL</category></item><item><title>LLMs Know More Than They Show: On the Intrinsic Representation of LLM Hallucinations — mentioned by mike_hearn</title><link>https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42326598</link><guid isPermaLink="false">urn:hackerpapers:mention:2410.02707:42326598</guid><pubDate>Thu, 05 Dec 2024 09:55:23 GMT</pubDate><description>&lt;p&gt;He does get it and models do know their own confidence levels with a remarkably high degree of accuracy. The article states this clearly: &amp;gt; Encoded truth: Recent work suggests that LLMs encode more truthfulness than previously understood, with certain tokens concentrating this information, which improves error detection. However, this encoding is complex and dataset-specific, hence limiting generalization. Notably, models may be encoding the correct answers internally despite generating errors, highlighting areas for targeted mitigation strategies. Linking to this paper…&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="https://hackerpaper.kaipfister.de/p/2410.02707/"&gt;Paper and discussion history&lt;/a&gt;. A mention is not an endorsement.&lt;/p&gt;</description><category>cs.CL</category></item><item><title>LLMs Know More Than They Show: On the Intrinsic Representation of LLM Hallucinations — HN submission</title><link>https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41995201</link><guid isPermaLink="false">urn:hackerpapers:submission:2410.02707:41995201</guid><pubDate>Wed, 30 Oct 2024 14:22:18 GMT</pubDate><description>&lt;p&gt;LLMs know more than they show: On the intrinsic representation of hallucinations&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;137 points; 140 discussion replies on HN. &lt;a href="https://hackerpaper.kaipfister.de/p/2410.02707/"&gt;Paper and source history&lt;/a&gt;. A submission is not an endorsement.&lt;/p&gt;</description><category>cs.CL</category></item><item><title>LLMs Know More Than They Show: On the Intrinsic Representation of LLM Hallucinations — HN submission</title><link>https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41774984</link><guid isPermaLink="false">urn:hackerpapers:submission:2410.02707:41774984</guid><pubDate>Tue, 08 Oct 2024 08:27:54 GMT</pubDate><description>&lt;p&gt;LLMs Know More Than They Show&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;1 point; 0 discussion replies on HN. &lt;a href="https://hackerpaper.kaipfister.de/p/2410.02707/"&gt;Paper and source history&lt;/a&gt;. A submission is not an endorsement.&lt;/p&gt;</description><category>cs.CL</category></item></channel></rss>
