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<rss version="2.0" xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom"><channel><title>Scaling LLM Test-Time Compute Optimally can be More Effective than Scaling Model Parameters · HackerPapers discussions</title><link>https://hackerpaper.kaipfister.de/p/2408.03314/</link><description>Collected HN comments and submissions linking this paper.</description><language>en</language><lastBuildDate>Mon, 02 Nov 2026 11:16:22 GMT</lastBuildDate><atom:link href="https://hackerpaper.kaipfister.de/p/2408.03314/feed.xml" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" /><item><title>Scaling LLM Test-Time Compute Optimally can be More Effective than Scaling Model Parameters — HN submission</title><link>https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43065682</link><guid isPermaLink="false">urn:hackerpapers:submission:2408.03314:43065682</guid><pubDate>Sun, 16 Feb 2025 05:48:45 GMT</pubDate><description>&lt;p&gt;Scaling Test-Time Compute Can Be More Effective Than Scaling Parameters (2024)&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;2 points; 0 discussion replies on HN. &lt;a href="https://hackerpaper.kaipfister.de/p/2408.03314/"&gt;Paper and source history&lt;/a&gt;. A submission is not an endorsement.&lt;/p&gt;</description><category>cs.LG</category></item><item><title>Scaling LLM Test-Time Compute Optimally can be More Effective than Scaling Model Parameters — mentioned by dimitry12</title><link>https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42475263</link><guid isPermaLink="false">urn:hackerpapers:mention:2408.03314:42475263</guid><pubDate>Fri, 20 Dec 2024 21:32:38 GMT</pubDate><description>&lt;p&gt;Verifier is trained with soft values of reward-to-go for each solution-prefix, obtained from monte-carlo rollouts of step-by-step solutions sampled from the &amp;quot;base&amp;quot; model. In other words: 1) sample step-by-step solutions from &amp;quot;base&amp;quot; model; 2) do it at non-zero temperature so that you can get multiple continuation from each solution-prefix; 3) use MATH-labels to decide if full solution (leaf/terminal node in MC rolloout) has reward `1` or `0`; 4) roll up these rewards to calculate reward-to-go for each intermediate step. Yes, verifier trained in this manner can be used to score…&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="https://hackerpaper.kaipfister.de/p/2408.03314/"&gt;Paper and discussion history&lt;/a&gt;. A mention is not an endorsement.&lt;/p&gt;</description><category>cs.LG</category></item><item><title>Scaling LLM Test-Time Compute Optimally can be More Effective than Scaling Model Parameters — HN submission</title><link>https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41534958</link><guid isPermaLink="false">urn:hackerpapers:submission:2408.03314:41534958</guid><pubDate>Fri, 13 Sep 2024 20:46:49 GMT</pubDate><description>&lt;p&gt;Scaling LLM Test-Time can be More Effective than Scaling Parameters&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;1 point; 0 discussion replies on HN. &lt;a href="https://hackerpaper.kaipfister.de/p/2408.03314/"&gt;Paper and source history&lt;/a&gt;. A submission is not an endorsement.&lt;/p&gt;</description><category>cs.LG</category></item><item><title>Scaling LLM Test-Time Compute Optimally can be More Effective than Scaling Model Parameters — mentioned by wesleyyue</title><link>https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41525020</link><guid isPermaLink="false">urn:hackerpapers:mention:2408.03314:41525020</guid><pubDate>Thu, 12 Sep 2024 20:13:45 GMT</pubDate><description>&lt;p&gt;Just added o1 to https://double.bot if anyone would like to try it for coding. --- Some thoughts: * The performance is really good. I have a private set of questions I note down whenever gpt-4o/sonnet fails. o1 solved everything so far. * It really is quite slow * It&amp;#x27;s interesting that the chain of thought is hidden. This is I think the first time where OpenAI can improve their models without it being immediately distilled by open models. It&amp;#x27;ll be interesting to see how quickly the oss field can catch up technique-wise as there&amp;#x27;s already been a lot of inference time compute papers recently…&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="https://hackerpaper.kaipfister.de/p/2408.03314/"&gt;Paper and discussion history&lt;/a&gt;. A mention is not an endorsement.&lt;/p&gt;</description><category>cs.LG</category></item><item><title>Scaling LLM Test-Time Compute Optimally can be More Effective than Scaling Model Parameters — mentioned by sharemywin</title><link>https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41390360</link><guid isPermaLink="false">urn:hackerpapers:mention:2408.03314:41390360</guid><pubDate>Thu, 29 Aug 2024 12:59:36 GMT</pubDate><description>&lt;p&gt;https://arxiv.org/abs/2408.03314v1 Enabling LLMs to improve their outputs by using more test-time computation is a critical step towards building generally self-improving agents that can operate on open-ended natural language. In this paper, we study the scaling of inference-time computation in LLMs, with a focus on answering the question: if an LLM is allowed to use a fixed but non-trivial amount of inference-time compute, how much can it improve its performance on a challenging prompt? Answering this question has implications not only on the achievable performance of LLMs, but also on the…&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="https://hackerpaper.kaipfister.de/p/2408.03314/"&gt;Paper and discussion history&lt;/a&gt;. A mention is not an endorsement.&lt;/p&gt;</description><category>cs.LG</category></item><item><title>Scaling LLM Test-Time Compute Optimally can be More Effective than Scaling Model Parameters — mentioned by sanxiyn</title><link>https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41370419</link><guid isPermaLink="false">urn:hackerpapers:mention:2408.03314:41370419</guid><pubDate>Tue, 27 Aug 2024 17:42:03 GMT</pubDate><description>&lt;p&gt;Fast inference can substitute for larger models in some circumstances. As you said, you can run multiple times. DeepMind had a detailed look, see https://arxiv.org/abs/2408.03314.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="https://hackerpaper.kaipfister.de/p/2408.03314/"&gt;Paper and discussion history&lt;/a&gt;. A mention is not an endorsement.&lt;/p&gt;</description><category>cs.LG</category></item><item><title>Scaling LLM Test-Time Compute Optimally can be More Effective than Scaling Model Parameters — HN submission</title><link>https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41182610</link><guid isPermaLink="false">urn:hackerpapers:submission:2408.03314:41182610</guid><pubDate>Wed, 07 Aug 2024 15:54:10 GMT</pubDate><description>&lt;p&gt;Scaling LLM Test-Time Compute More Effective Than Scaling Model Parameters&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;1 point; 0 discussion replies on HN. &lt;a href="https://hackerpaper.kaipfister.de/p/2408.03314/"&gt;Paper and source history&lt;/a&gt;. 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