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arXiv:2407.07218math.NA

Weak baselines and reporting biases lead to overoptimism in machine learning for fluid-related partial differential equations

Nick McGreivy, Ammar Hakim

Abstract

One of the most promising applications of machine learning (ML) in computational physics is to accelerate the solution of partial differential equations (PDEs). The key objective of ML-based PDE solvers is to output a sufficiently accurate solution faster than standard numerical methods, which are used as a baseline comparison. We first perform a systematic review of the ML-for-PDE solving literature. Of articles that use ML to solve a fluid-related PDE and claim to outperform a standard numerical method, we determine that 79% (60/76) compare to a weak baseline. Second, we find evidence that reporting biases, especially outcome reporting bias and publication bias, are widespread. We conclude that ML-for-PDE solving research is overoptimistic: weak baselines lead to overly positive results, while reporting biases lead to underreporting of negative results. To a large extent, these issues appear to be caused by factors similar to those of past reproducibility crises: researcher degrees of freedom and a bias towards positive results. We call for bottom-up cultural changes to minimize biased reporting as well as top-down structural reforms intended to reduce perverse incentives for doing so.

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doi:10.1038/s42256-024-00897-5
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math.NANumerical Analysis cs.LGMachine Learning physics.flu-dynFluid Dynamics

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    • For physics sims, I'd say it's useless. Imagine you discretize a cube into 1000 gridpoints in each direction, that's 1000^3 = 1 billion nodes/"tokens". Plus you typically time-march some sort of equation so you need the solutions previous 3-5 timesteps as well so that's 3-5…

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    • Interesting work. Given, the recent noise around this paper https://arxiv.org/pdf/2407.07218 about "weak baselines" in ML x CFD work, I wonder how it resonates with this specific work.. I am not super familiar with DEM, but I know that other particle based model such as SPH…

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