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<rss version="2.0" xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom"><channel><title>Vision language models are blind: Failing to translate detailed visual features into words · HackerPapers discussions</title><link>https://hackerpaper.kaipfister.de/p/2407.06581/</link><description>Collected HN comments and submissions linking this paper.</description><language>en</language><lastBuildDate>Mon, 02 Nov 2026 11:16:22 GMT</lastBuildDate><atom:link href="https://hackerpaper.kaipfister.de/p/2407.06581/feed.xml" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" /><item><title>Vision language models are blind: Failing to translate detailed visual features into words — mentioned by moffkalast</title><link>https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47079876</link><guid isPermaLink="false">urn:hackerpapers:mention:2407.06581:47079876</guid><pubDate>Thu, 19 Feb 2026 21:40:48 GMT</pubDate><description>&lt;p&gt;https://arcprize.org/arc-agi/1/ It&amp;#x27;s a sort of arbitrary pattern matching thing that can&amp;#x27;t be trained on in the sense that the MMLU can be, but you can definitely generate billions of examples of this kind of task and train on it, and it will not make the model better on any other task. So in that sense, it absolutely can be. I think it&amp;#x27;s been harder to solve because it&amp;#x27;s a visual puzzle, and we know how well today&amp;#x27;s vision encoders actually work https://arxiv.org/html/2407.06581v1&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="https://hackerpaper.kaipfister.de/p/2407.06581/"&gt;Paper and discussion history&lt;/a&gt;. A mention is not an endorsement.&lt;/p&gt;</description><category>cs.AI</category></item><item><title>Vision language models are blind: Failing to translate detailed visual features into words — HN submission</title><link>https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42978148</link><guid isPermaLink="false">urn:hackerpapers:submission:2407.06581:42978148</guid><pubDate>Fri, 07 Feb 2025 22:17:19 GMT</pubDate><description>&lt;p&gt;Vision language models are blind (2024) [pdf]&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;3 points; 0 discussion replies on HN. &lt;a href="https://hackerpaper.kaipfister.de/p/2407.06581/"&gt;Paper and source history&lt;/a&gt;. A submission is not an endorsement.&lt;/p&gt;</description><category>cs.AI</category></item></channel></rss>
