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<rss version="2.0" xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom"><channel><title>KAN: Kolmogorov-Arnold Networks · HackerPapers discussions</title><link>https://hackerpaper.kaipfister.de/p/2404.19756/</link><description>Collected HN comments and submissions linking this paper.</description><language>en</language><lastBuildDate>Mon, 02 Nov 2026 11:16:22 GMT</lastBuildDate><atom:link href="https://hackerpaper.kaipfister.de/p/2404.19756/feed.xml" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" /><item><title>KAN: Kolmogorov-Arnold Networks — mentioned by thesz</title><link>https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40856523</link><guid isPermaLink="false">urn:hackerpapers:mention:2404.19756:40856523</guid><pubDate>Tue, 02 Jul 2024 13:37:26 GMT</pubDate><description>&lt;p&gt;The original paper [1] used LBFGS [2], it is quasi-second-order optimization algorithm. [1] https://arxiv.org/pdf/2404.19756 - &amp;quot;Both MLPs and KANs are trained with LBFGS for 1800 steps in total.&amp;quot; [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Limited-memory_BFGS (Quasi-)Newton methods approximate learning rate using local curvature which gradient-based methods do not do. The post relies on Tinygrad because it is familiar to author and author tinkers with batch size and learning rate, but not with optimizer itself. I think that even line search for minimum on the direction of the batch gradient can provide…&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="https://hackerpaper.kaipfister.de/p/2404.19756/"&gt;Paper and discussion history&lt;/a&gt;. A mention is not an endorsement.&lt;/p&gt;</description><category>cs.LG</category></item><item><title>KAN: Kolmogorov-Arnold Networks — HN submission</title><link>https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40281516</link><guid isPermaLink="false">urn:hackerpapers:submission:2404.19756:40281516</guid><pubDate>Tue, 07 May 2024 02:00:18 GMT</pubDate><description>&lt;p&gt;Kan: Kolmogorov-Arnold Networks&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;28 points; 4 discussion replies on HN. &lt;a href="https://hackerpaper.kaipfister.de/p/2404.19756/"&gt;Paper and source history&lt;/a&gt;. A submission is not an endorsement.&lt;/p&gt;</description><category>cs.LG</category></item><item><title>KAN: Kolmogorov-Arnold Networks — HN submission</title><link>https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40272252</link><guid isPermaLink="false">urn:hackerpapers:submission:2404.19756:40272252</guid><pubDate>Mon, 06 May 2024 07:51:54 GMT</pubDate><description>&lt;p&gt;Kan: Kolmogorov–Arnold Networks&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;3 points; 0 discussion replies on HN. &lt;a href="https://hackerpaper.kaipfister.de/p/2404.19756/"&gt;Paper and source history&lt;/a&gt;. A submission is not an endorsement.&lt;/p&gt;</description><category>cs.LG</category></item><item><title>KAN: Kolmogorov-Arnold Networks — HN submission</title><link>https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40261190</link><guid isPermaLink="false">urn:hackerpapers:submission:2404.19756:40261190</guid><pubDate>Sat, 04 May 2024 23:40:02 GMT</pubDate><description>&lt;p&gt;Kan: Kolmogorov-Arnold Networks&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;3 points; 0 discussion replies on HN. &lt;a href="https://hackerpaper.kaipfister.de/p/2404.19756/"&gt;Paper and source history&lt;/a&gt;. A submission is not an endorsement.&lt;/p&gt;</description><category>cs.LG</category></item><item><title>KAN: Kolmogorov-Arnold Networks — HN submission</title><link>https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40250203</link><guid isPermaLink="false">urn:hackerpapers:submission:2404.19756:40250203</guid><pubDate>Fri, 03 May 2024 17:37:45 GMT</pubDate><description>&lt;p&gt;Kolmogorov-Arnold Networks, an alternative to Multi-Layer Perceptrons&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;2 points; 0 discussion replies on HN. &lt;a href="https://hackerpaper.kaipfister.de/p/2404.19756/"&gt;Paper and source history&lt;/a&gt;. A submission is not an endorsement.&lt;/p&gt;</description><category>cs.LG</category></item><item><title>KAN: Kolmogorov-Arnold Networks — mentioned by hansvm</title><link>https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40247087</link><guid isPermaLink="false">urn:hackerpapers:mention:2404.19756:40247087</guid><pubDate>Fri, 03 May 2024 12:47:36 GMT</pubDate><description>&lt;p&gt;The paper [0] is pretty good for handling questions like those. &amp;gt; doesn&amp;#x27;t KA representation require continuous univariate functions? All multivariate continuous functions (on a bounded domain) can be represented as compositions of addition and univariate continuous functions. Much like an MLP, you can also approximate discontinuous functions well on most of the domain (learning a nearby continuous function instead). &amp;gt; do B-splines actually cover the space of all continuous functions Much like an MLP, you can hit your favorite accuracy bound with more control points. &amp;gt; wouldn&amp;#x27;t... MLPs be…&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="https://hackerpaper.kaipfister.de/p/2404.19756/"&gt;Paper and discussion history&lt;/a&gt;. A mention is not an endorsement.&lt;/p&gt;</description><category>cs.LG</category></item><item><title>KAN: Kolmogorov-Arnold Networks — HN submission</title><link>https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40245696</link><guid isPermaLink="false">urn:hackerpapers:submission:2404.19756:40245696</guid><pubDate>Fri, 03 May 2024 09:16:21 GMT</pubDate><description>&lt;p&gt;Kolmogorov–Arnold Networks: Alternative to Multilayer Perceptrons.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;2 points; 3 discussion replies on HN. &lt;a href="https://hackerpaper.kaipfister.de/p/2404.19756/"&gt;Paper and source history&lt;/a&gt;. A submission is not an endorsement.&lt;/p&gt;</description><category>cs.LG</category></item><item><title>KAN: Kolmogorov-Arnold Networks — HN submission</title><link>https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40234345</link><guid isPermaLink="false">urn:hackerpapers:submission:2404.19756:40234345</guid><pubDate>Thu, 02 May 2024 09:42:36 GMT</pubDate><description>&lt;p&gt;Kan: Kolmogorov-Arnold Networks&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;4 points; 0 discussion replies on HN. &lt;a href="https://hackerpaper.kaipfister.de/p/2404.19756/"&gt;Paper and source history&lt;/a&gt;. A submission is not an endorsement.&lt;/p&gt;</description><category>cs.LG</category></item><item><title>KAN: Kolmogorov-Arnold Networks — mentioned by nyrikki</title><link>https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40231434</link><guid isPermaLink="false">urn:hackerpapers:mention:2404.19756:40231434</guid><pubDate>Thu, 02 May 2024 00:38:56 GMT</pubDate><description>&lt;p&gt;Not for discontinuous functions, as your paper explains, we know that g exists for discontinuous bounded, but nothing to find it with. &amp;gt; A practical construction of g in cases with discontinuous bounded and un- bounded functions is not yet known. For such cases Theorem 2.1 gives only a theoretical understanding of the representation problem. This is because for the representation of discontinuous bounded functions we have derived (2.1) from the fact that the range of the operator Z∗ is the whole space of bounded functions B(Id). This fact directly gives us a formula (2.1) but does not tell…&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="https://hackerpaper.kaipfister.de/p/2404.19756/"&gt;Paper and discussion history&lt;/a&gt;. A mention is not an endorsement.&lt;/p&gt;</description><category>cs.LG</category></item><item><title>KAN: Kolmogorov-Arnold Networks — HN submission</title><link>https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40226580</link><guid isPermaLink="false">urn:hackerpapers:submission:2404.19756:40226580</guid><pubDate>Wed, 01 May 2024 17:40:03 GMT</pubDate><description>&lt;p&gt;Kan: Kolmogorov-Arnold Networks&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;3 points; 1 discussion reply on HN. &lt;a href="https://hackerpaper.kaipfister.de/p/2404.19756/"&gt;Paper and source history&lt;/a&gt;. A submission is not an endorsement.&lt;/p&gt;</description><category>cs.LG</category></item><item><title>KAN: Kolmogorov-Arnold Networks — mentioned by nextaccountic</title><link>https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40226155</link><guid isPermaLink="false">urn:hackerpapers:mention:2404.19756:40226155</guid><pubDate>Wed, 01 May 2024 17:10:14 GMT</pubDate><description>&lt;p&gt;At page 6 it explains how they did back propagation https://arxiv.org/pdf/2404.19756 (and in page 2 it says that previous efforts to leverage Kolmogorov-Arnold representation failed to use backpropagation), so maybe using backpropagation to train multilayer networks with this architecture is their main contribution? &amp;gt; Unsurprisingly, the possibility of using Kolmogorov-Arnold representation theorem to build neuralnetworks has been studied [8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13]. However, most work has stuck with the original depth-2 width-(2n + 1) representation, and did not have the chance to leverage more…&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="https://hackerpaper.kaipfister.de/p/2404.19756/"&gt;Paper and discussion history&lt;/a&gt;. A mention is not an endorsement.&lt;/p&gt;</description><category>cs.LG</category></item></channel></rss>
