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<rss version="2.0" xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom"><channel><title>RULER: What's the Real Context Size of Your Long-Context Language Models? · HackerPapers discussions</title><link>https://hackerpaper.kaipfister.de/p/2404.06654/</link><description>Collected HN comments and submissions linking this paper.</description><language>en</language><lastBuildDate>Mon, 02 Nov 2026 11:16:22 GMT</lastBuildDate><atom:link href="https://hackerpaper.kaipfister.de/p/2404.06654/feed.xml" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" /><item><title>RULER: What's the Real Context Size of Your Long-Context Language Models? — mentioned by evertedsphere</title><link>https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44067816</link><guid isPermaLink="false">urn:hackerpapers:mention:2404.06654:44067816</guid><pubDate>Thu, 22 May 2025 22:24:57 GMT</pubDate><description>&lt;p&gt;ruler https://arxiv.org/abs/2404.06654 nolima https://arxiv.org/abs/2502.05167&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="https://hackerpaper.kaipfister.de/p/2404.06654/"&gt;Paper and discussion history&lt;/a&gt;. A mention is not an endorsement.&lt;/p&gt;</description><category>cs.CL</category></item><item><title>RULER: What's the Real Context Size of Your Long-Context Language Models? — mentioned by enginoid</title><link>https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43684047</link><guid isPermaLink="false">urn:hackerpapers:mention:2404.06654:43684047</guid><pubDate>Mon, 14 Apr 2025 17:46:36 GMT</pubDate><description>&lt;p&gt;There are some benchmarks such as Fiction.LiveBench[0] that give an indication and the new Graphwalks approach looks super interesting. But I&amp;#x27;d love to see one specifically for &amp;quot;meaningful coding.&amp;quot; Coding has specific properties that are important such as variable tracking (following coreference chains) described in RULER[1]. This paper also cautions against Single-Needle-In-The-Haystack tests which I think the OpenAI one might be. You really need at least Multi-NIAH for it to tell you anything meaningful, which is what they&amp;#x27;ve done for the Gemini models. I think something a bit more…&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="https://hackerpaper.kaipfister.de/p/2404.06654/"&gt;Paper and discussion history&lt;/a&gt;. A mention is not an endorsement.&lt;/p&gt;</description><category>cs.CL</category></item><item><title>RULER: What's the Real Context Size of Your Long-Context Language Models? — mentioned by smallnix</title><link>https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43259839</link><guid isPermaLink="false">urn:hackerpapers:mention:2404.06654:43259839</guid><pubDate>Tue, 04 Mar 2025 21:11:17 GMT</pubDate><description>&lt;p&gt;Found one https://arxiv.org/abs/2404.06654&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="https://hackerpaper.kaipfister.de/p/2404.06654/"&gt;Paper and discussion history&lt;/a&gt;. A mention is not an endorsement.&lt;/p&gt;</description><category>cs.CL</category></item><item><title>RULER: What's the Real Context Size of Your Long-Context Language Models? — mentioned by s-macke</title><link>https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40025708</link><guid isPermaLink="false">urn:hackerpapers:mention:2404.06654:40025708</guid><pubDate>Sat, 13 Apr 2024 20:18:37 GMT</pubDate><description>&lt;p&gt;We got RULER 3 days ago. https://arxiv.org/abs/2404.06654 https://github.com/hsiehjackson/RULER&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="https://hackerpaper.kaipfister.de/p/2404.06654/"&gt;Paper and discussion history&lt;/a&gt;. A mention is not an endorsement.&lt;/p&gt;</description><category>cs.CL</category></item></channel></rss>
