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<rss version="2.0" xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom"><channel><title>The Unreasonable Ineffectiveness of the Deeper Layers · HackerPapers discussions</title><link>https://hackerpaper.kaipfister.de/p/2403.17887/</link><description>Collected HN comments and submissions linking this paper.</description><language>en</language><lastBuildDate>Mon, 02 Nov 2026 11:16:22 GMT</lastBuildDate><atom:link href="https://hackerpaper.kaipfister.de/p/2403.17887/feed.xml" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" /><item><title>The Unreasonable Ineffectiveness of the Deeper Layers — mentioned by sigmoid10</title><link>https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40917171</link><guid isPermaLink="false">urn:hackerpapers:mention:2403.17887:40917171</guid><pubDate>Tue, 09 Jul 2024 15:22:47 GMT</pubDate><description>&lt;p&gt;Other research from Meta FAIR actually suggests that you should prune deeper layers if you want to improve performance while maintaining accuracy [1]. So there must be a cutoff point for smaller networks where this approach still works, otherwise the results are contradictory. Or we could drastically improve these new models even further. [1] https://arxiv.org/html/2403.17887v1&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="https://hackerpaper.kaipfister.de/p/2403.17887/"&gt;Paper and discussion history&lt;/a&gt;. A mention is not an endorsement.&lt;/p&gt;</description><category>cs.CL</category></item><item><title>The Unreasonable Ineffectiveness of the Deeper Layers — HN submission</title><link>https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39903302</link><guid isPermaLink="false">urn:hackerpapers:submission:2403.17887:39903302</guid><pubDate>Tue, 02 Apr 2024 07:52:30 GMT</pubDate><description>&lt;p&gt;The Unreasonable Ineffectiveness of the Deeper Layers&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;2 points; 0 discussion replies on HN. &lt;a href="https://hackerpaper.kaipfister.de/p/2403.17887/"&gt;Paper and source history&lt;/a&gt;. A submission is not an endorsement.&lt;/p&gt;</description><category>cs.CL</category></item><item><title>The Unreasonable Ineffectiveness of the Deeper Layers — mentioned by imtringued</title><link>https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39873539</link><guid isPermaLink="false">urn:hackerpapers:mention:2403.17887:39873539</guid><pubDate>Sat, 30 Mar 2024 10:36:26 GMT</pubDate><description>&lt;p&gt;You can just delete whole layers, because the point of residual layers is to make the model learn the hyperparameter &amp;quot;layer count&amp;quot; automatically. Compare this to the absence of residual layers where the model must use all layers. Then you will have to get the layer count perfect, but this isn&amp;#x27;t possible, since each data point might benefit from a different layer count. The extra layers therefore exist primarily so the model becomes robust to poorly chosen hyper parameters. You still need a minimum amount of layers, but that isn&amp;#x27;t the problem. https://arxiv.org/abs/2403.17887&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="https://hackerpaper.kaipfister.de/p/2403.17887/"&gt;Paper and discussion history&lt;/a&gt;. A mention is not an endorsement.&lt;/p&gt;</description><category>cs.CL</category></item><item><title>The Unreasonable Ineffectiveness of the Deeper Layers — mentioned by underlines</title><link>https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39845218</link><guid isPermaLink="false">urn:hackerpapers:mention:2403.17887:39845218</guid><pubDate>Wed, 27 Mar 2024 22:09:41 GMT</pubDate><description>&lt;p&gt;This paper partially finds disagreeing evidence: https://arxiv.org/abs/2403.17887&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="https://hackerpaper.kaipfister.de/p/2403.17887/"&gt;Paper and discussion history&lt;/a&gt;. A mention is not an endorsement.&lt;/p&gt;</description><category>cs.CL</category></item><item><title>The Unreasonable Ineffectiveness of the Deeper Layers — HN submission</title><link>https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39837741</link><guid isPermaLink="false">urn:hackerpapers:submission:2403.17887:39837741</guid><pubDate>Wed, 27 Mar 2024 11:33:45 GMT</pubDate><description>&lt;p&gt;The Unreasonable Ineffectiveness of the Deeper Layers&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;4 points; 0 discussion replies on HN. &lt;a href="https://hackerpaper.kaipfister.de/p/2403.17887/"&gt;Paper and source history&lt;/a&gt;. A submission is not an endorsement.&lt;/p&gt;</description><category>cs.CL</category></item></channel></rss>
