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arXiv:2402.19459gr-qc

Anomalous contribution to galactic rotation curves due to stochastic spacetime

Jonathan Oppenheim, Andrea Russo

Abstract

We consider a proposed alternative to quantum gravity, in which the spacetime metric is treated as classical, even while matter fields remain quantum. Consistency of the theory necessarily requires that the metric evolve stochastically. Here, we show that this stochastic behaviour leads to a modification of general relativity at low accelerations. In the low acceleration regime, the variance in the acceleration produced by the gravitational field is high in comparison to that produced by the Newtonian potential, and can act as an entropic force, causing a deviation from Einstein's theory of general relativity. We show that in this "diffusion regime", the entropic force acts from a gravitational point of view, as if it were a contribution to the matter distribution. We compute modifications to the expectation value of the metric via the path integral formalism, and find an anomalous contribution which corresponds to a cosmological constant, anti-correlated with a contribution which has been used to fit galactic rotation curves without dark matter. We caution that a greater understanding of this effect is needed before conclusions can be drawn, most likely through numerical simulations, and provide a template for computing the deviation from general relativity which serves as an experimental signature of the Brownian motion of spacetime.

arXiv comments
v2 : a comment added, and more critical discussion extended, v3 : comparison with tabletop experiments added
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gr-qcGeneral Relativity and Quantum Cosmology astro-ph.GAAstrophysics of Galaxies hep-thHigh Energy Physics, Theory

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  1. The end of the dark universe? 3 comments
    • That's an older paper that was initially uploaded in 2018 and revised last year. The preprint under discussion is at https://arxiv.org/abs/2402.19459

      mdturnerphysView on HNParent context

    • The article in question here is a followup to that, as a preprint and linked in this submission: "In a recent paper [0], which has not been peer-reviewed" [0] https://arxiv.org/abs/2402.19459

      podikiView on HNParent context

    • Sure, but the origin of this preprint is in the stochastic-classical/uncertain-quantum "postquantum-classical" theory the Oppenheim group is working on. Their theory is premised on a weakening of the gravitational interaction at short distances (it's "asymptotically free" and…

      raattgiftView on HNParent context

    • Why should I? I am dedicating my life to my biggest passion, which is not cosmology. If one does commit themselves to their passion they should strive to push the field further forward, not stagnate it. It can be done. https://arxiv.org/abs/2402.19459

      willis936View on HNParent context

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