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<rss version="2.0" xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom"><channel><title>Technical Report on the Pangram AI-Generated Text Classifier · HackerPapers discussions</title><link>https://hackerpaper.kaipfister.de/p/2402.14873/</link><description>Collected HN comments and submissions linking this paper.</description><language>en</language><lastBuildDate>Mon, 02 Nov 2026 11:16:22 GMT</lastBuildDate><atom:link href="https://hackerpaper.kaipfister.de/p/2402.14873/feed.xml" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" /><item><title>Technical Report on the Pangram AI-Generated Text Classifier — mentioned by WhitneyLand</title><link>https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48939447</link><guid isPermaLink="false">urn:hackerpapers:mention:2402.14873:48939447</guid><pubDate>Thu, 16 Jul 2026 19:54:55 GMT</pubDate><description>&lt;p&gt;&amp;quot;Text is simply not information dense enough to be able to decode some arbitrary signal of provenance from it...it&amp;#x27;s a bad fiction to perpetuate that any of this is anything more than tarot card reading.&amp;quot; Not true at all. Pangram is highly effective and has a very low false positive rate. The post here is impressive for a small project, it looks like they independently thought of one of the core ideas Pangram uses of creating twins to compare. You can see how it works here: https://arxiv.org/pdf/2402.14873&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="https://hackerpaper.kaipfister.de/p/2402.14873/"&gt;Paper and discussion history&lt;/a&gt;. A mention is not an endorsement.&lt;/p&gt;</description><category>cs.CL</category></item><item><title>Technical Report on the Pangram AI-Generated Text Classifier — HN submission</title><link>https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48800043</link><guid isPermaLink="false">urn:hackerpapers:submission:2402.14873:48800043</guid><pubDate>Mon, 06 Jul 2026 02:27:50 GMT</pubDate><description>&lt;p&gt;Technical Report on the Pangram AI-Generated Text Classifier (2024)&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;1 point; 0 discussion replies on HN. &lt;a href="https://hackerpaper.kaipfister.de/p/2402.14873/"&gt;Paper and source history&lt;/a&gt;. A submission is not an endorsement.&lt;/p&gt;</description><category>cs.CL</category></item><item><title>Technical Report on the Pangram AI-Generated Text Classifier — mentioned by salahadawi</title><link>https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48792009</link><guid isPermaLink="false">urn:hackerpapers:mention:2402.14873:48792009</guid><pubDate>Sun, 05 Jul 2026 07:26:13 GMT</pubDate><description>&lt;p&gt;Their technical report (arxiv.org/abs/2402.14873) goes into it. They train a classifier on human text paired with AI-generated versions of the same documents. Dataset scale is comparable to LLM pretraining sets.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="https://hackerpaper.kaipfister.de/p/2402.14873/"&gt;Paper and discussion history&lt;/a&gt;. A mention is not an endorsement.&lt;/p&gt;</description><category>cs.CL</category></item><item><title>Technical Report on the Pangram AI-Generated Text Classifier — mentioned by moonu</title><link>https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47660158</link><guid isPermaLink="false">urn:hackerpapers:mention:2402.14873:47660158</guid><pubDate>Mon, 06 Apr 2026 12:40:31 GMT</pubDate><description>&lt;p&gt;Pangram is probably the best known example of a detector with low false positives, they have a research paper here: https://arxiv.org/pdf/2402.14873. They do have an API but not sure if you need to request access for it. For humans I think it just comes down to interacting with LLMs enough to realize their quirks, but that&amp;#x27;s not really fool-proof.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="https://hackerpaper.kaipfister.de/p/2402.14873/"&gt;Paper and discussion history&lt;/a&gt;. A mention is not an endorsement.&lt;/p&gt;</description><category>cs.CL</category></item><item><title>Technical Report on the Pangram AI-Generated Text Classifier — mentioned by usefulposter</title><link>https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46965357</link><guid isPermaLink="false">urn:hackerpapers:mention:2402.14873:46965357</guid><pubDate>Tue, 10 Feb 2026 19:20:51 GMT</pubDate><description>&lt;p&gt;I&amp;#x27;m not affiliated with it in any way, but you might want to check out the leading model https://arxiv.org/abs/2402.14873 and the mixed authorship detection https://www.pangram.com/blog/pangram-3-0-technical. LLM detection has come a long way since the first GPTZero. Human heuristics - I&amp;#x27;ve prompted millions of tokens across every frontier model iteration for all manner of writing styles and purposes - also helps greatly. Concerning to me are long-time posters who (perhaps unknowingly) advance the decline of this human community by encouraging the people breaking HN guidelines. Perhaps…&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="https://hackerpaper.kaipfister.de/p/2402.14873/"&gt;Paper and discussion history&lt;/a&gt;. A mention is not an endorsement.&lt;/p&gt;</description><category>cs.CL</category></item><item><title>Technical Report on the Pangram AI-Generated Text Classifier — mentioned by EdwardDiego</title><link>https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46841669</link><guid isPermaLink="false">urn:hackerpapers:mention:2402.14873:46841669</guid><pubDate>Sat, 31 Jan 2026 22:45:42 GMT</pubDate><description>&lt;p&gt;Human editors, I suspect, would pick up the &amp;quot;tells&amp;quot; of generated text, although as we know, there&amp;#x27;s a lot of false positives in that space. But it looks like Pangram is a text classifying NN trained using a technique where they get a human to write a body of text on a subject, and then get various LLMs to write a body of text on the same subject, which strikes me as a good way to approach the problem. Not that I&amp;#x27;m in anyway qualified to properly understand ML. More details here: https://arxiv.org/pdf/2402.14873&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="https://hackerpaper.kaipfister.de/p/2402.14873/"&gt;Paper and discussion history&lt;/a&gt;. A mention is not an endorsement.&lt;/p&gt;</description><category>cs.CL</category></item><item><title>Technical Report on the Pangram AI-Generated Text Classifier — mentioned by gamegoblin</title><link>https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46805624</link><guid isPermaLink="false">urn:hackerpapers:mention:2402.14873:46805624</guid><pubDate>Thu, 29 Jan 2026 03:52:17 GMT</pubDate><description>&lt;p&gt;AI detectors in general are unreliable, but there are a few made by serious researchers that have only 1-in-10000 false positive rate, e.g. https://arxiv.org/pdf/2402.14873 Having worked in a bigcorp, I&amp;#x27;ve read my fair share of management-speak, and none of it sounds quite as empty as the allegedly AI text. The AI sounds like someone conjuring a parody emulation of management speak instead of actual management speak. More broadly — and I feel this way about AI code at well as AI prose — I find that part of my brain is always trying to reverse engineer what kind of person wrote this, what was…&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="https://hackerpaper.kaipfister.de/p/2402.14873/"&gt;Paper and discussion history&lt;/a&gt;. A mention is not an endorsement.&lt;/p&gt;</description><category>cs.CL</category></item><item><title>Technical Report on the Pangram AI-Generated Text Classifier — mentioned by agucova</title><link>https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45950871</link><guid isPermaLink="false">urn:hackerpapers:mention:2402.14873:45950871</guid><pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2025 04:34:31 GMT</pubDate><description>&lt;p&gt;I ran the introduction chapter through Pangram [1], which is one of the most reliable AI-generated text classifiers out there [2] (with a benchmarked accuracy of 99.85% over long-form text), and it gives high confidence for it having been AI-generated. It&amp;#x27;s also very intuitively obvious if you play a lot with LLMs. I have no problem at all reading AI-generated content if it&amp;#x27;s good, but I don&amp;#x27;t appreciate dishonesty. [1]: https://www.pangram.com/ [2]: https://arxiv.org/pdf/2402.14873&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="https://hackerpaper.kaipfister.de/p/2402.14873/"&gt;Paper and discussion history&lt;/a&gt;. A mention is not an endorsement.&lt;/p&gt;</description><category>cs.CL</category></item><item><title>Technical Report on the Pangram AI-Generated Text Classifier — mentioned by maxspero</title><link>https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41976978</link><guid isPermaLink="false">urn:hackerpapers:mention:2402.14873:41976978</guid><pubDate>Mon, 28 Oct 2024 22:10:02 GMT</pubDate><description>&lt;p&gt;We benchmark on pre-2023 datasets of O(10M) documents not in our training set. Other detectors seem to have between 1-3% false positive rate and ours is around 1 in 10,000 as of our latest model update. We do a lot of active learning + core set selection to keep FPR low and improve recall on larger LLMs. Our white paper with some methodology is here: https://arxiv.org/abs/2402.14873&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="https://hackerpaper.kaipfister.de/p/2402.14873/"&gt;Paper and discussion history&lt;/a&gt;. A mention is not an endorsement.&lt;/p&gt;</description><category>cs.CL</category></item><item><title>Technical Report on the Pangram AI-Generated Text Classifier — HN submission</title><link>https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39565000</link><guid isPermaLink="false">urn:hackerpapers:submission:2402.14873:39565000</guid><pubDate>Fri, 01 Mar 2024 18:28:47 GMT</pubDate><description>&lt;p&gt;Technical Report on the Checkfor.ai AI-Generated Text Classifier&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;1 point; 0 discussion replies on HN. &lt;a href="https://hackerpaper.kaipfister.de/p/2402.14873/"&gt;Paper and source history&lt;/a&gt;. 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