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<rss version="2.0" xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom"><channel><title>On the Self-Verification Limitations of Large Language Models on Reasoning and Planning Tasks · HackerPapers discussions</title><link>https://hackerpaper.kaipfister.de/p/2402.08115/</link><description>Collected HN comments and submissions linking this paper.</description><language>en</language><lastBuildDate>Mon, 02 Nov 2026 11:16:22 GMT</lastBuildDate><atom:link href="https://hackerpaper.kaipfister.de/p/2402.08115/feed.xml" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" /><item><title>On the Self-Verification Limitations of Large Language Models on Reasoning and Planning Tasks — mentioned by YeGoblynQueenne</title><link>https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49290608</link><guid isPermaLink="false">urn:hackerpapers:mention:2402.08115:49290608</guid><pubDate>Thu, 13 Aug 2026 19:13:24 GMT</pubDate><description>&lt;p&gt;Thanks, but I can&amp;#x27;t see that in the article by Anthropic. AFAICT the &amp;quot;650 ideas&amp;quot; that were wrong were all generated independently of each other. I don&amp;#x27;t agree that LLMs can evaluate an experiment. There&amp;#x27;s nothing in LLM training that makes them capable of telling what is e.g. a correct hypothesis from an incorrect one. I know that is a common claim particularly encouraged by AI companies but whenever that claim has been studied systematically and carefully the result is that self-verification doesn&amp;#x27;t work. For example, see: On the Self-Verification Limitations of Large Language Models on…&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="https://hackerpaper.kaipfister.de/p/2402.08115/"&gt;Paper and discussion history&lt;/a&gt;. A mention is not an endorsement.&lt;/p&gt;</description><category>cs.AI</category></item><item><title>On the Self-Verification Limitations of Large Language Models on Reasoning and Planning Tasks — mentioned by dudeinhawaii</title><link>https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43840526</link><guid isPermaLink="false">urn:hackerpapers:mention:2402.08115:43840526</guid><pubDate>Wed, 30 Apr 2025 02:21:09 GMT</pubDate><description>&lt;p&gt;I see a lot of threads pitting models against each other (or whole swarms of them) in the hope that &amp;quot;wisdom of crowds&amp;quot; will magically appear. After a stack of experiments of my own—and after watching the recent ASU/Microsoft-Research work [1].. I&amp;#x27;ve landed on a simpler takeaway: An LLM is a terrible verifier of another LLM. Subbarao Kambhampati&amp;#x27;s &amp;quot;(How) Do LLMs Reason/Plan?&amp;quot; talk shows GPT-4 confidently producing provably wrong graph-coloring proofs until a symbolic SAT solver is introduced as the referee [1]. Stechly et al. quantify the problem: letting GPT-4 critique its own answers…&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="https://hackerpaper.kaipfister.de/p/2402.08115/"&gt;Paper and discussion history&lt;/a&gt;. A mention is not an endorsement.&lt;/p&gt;</description><category>cs.AI</category></item></channel></rss>
