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<rss version="2.0" xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom"><channel><title>Mass Adoption of NATs: Survey and experiments on carrier-grade NATs · HackerPapers discussions</title><link>https://hackerpaper.kaipfister.de/p/2311.04658/</link><description>Collected HN comments and submissions linking this paper.</description><language>en</language><lastBuildDate>Mon, 02 Nov 2026 11:16:22 GMT</lastBuildDate><atom:link href="https://hackerpaper.kaipfister.de/p/2311.04658/feed.xml" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" /><item><title>Mass Adoption of NATs: Survey and experiments on carrier-grade NATs — mentioned by synctext</title><link>https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=50100025</link><guid isPermaLink="false">urn:hackerpapers:mention:2311.04658:50100025</guid><pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2026 06:35:12 GMT</pubDate><description>&lt;p&gt;Interesting project, towards a decentralized Internet! The heavy lifting is done in this function, pairing. You link your personal devices together, solid idea [0]. This Flipflop project relies on the Iroh library for NAT/Firewall puncturing, external address discovery and overlay networking. Connecting two 5G devices, without a coordinating central server is possible, but very hard. Iroh simply relies on a server which you could self-host. Cool stuff, we stress tested it a while ago and it somewhat worked. NAT connectivity is unsolved. My university lab conducted one of the bigger puncturing…&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="https://hackerpaper.kaipfister.de/p/2311.04658/"&gt;Paper and discussion history&lt;/a&gt;. A mention is not an endorsement.&lt;/p&gt;</description><category>cs.NI</category></item><item><title>Mass Adoption of NATs: Survey and experiments on carrier-grade NATs — HN submission</title><link>https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39396690</link><guid isPermaLink="false">urn:hackerpapers:submission:2311.04658:39396690</guid><pubDate>Fri, 16 Feb 2024 13:26:50 GMT</pubDate><description>&lt;p&gt;Mass Adoption of NATs: Survey and experiments on carrier-grade NATs (2023) [pdf]&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;2 points; 0 discussion replies on HN. &lt;a href="https://hackerpaper.kaipfister.de/p/2311.04658/"&gt;Paper and source history&lt;/a&gt;. A submission is not an endorsement.&lt;/p&gt;</description><category>cs.NI</category></item><item><title>Mass Adoption of NATs: Survey and experiments on carrier-grade NATs — mentioned by synctext</title><link>https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39380542</link><guid isPermaLink="false">urn:hackerpapers:mention:2311.04658:39380542</guid><pubDate>Thu, 15 Feb 2024 09:02:41 GMT</pubDate><description>&lt;p&gt;&amp;gt; needs to be some servers available to facilitate the holepunching Not needed. Other phones can help you determine connectable ports. You can create a phone-to-phone overlay and even puncture carrier-grade NATs. See our birthday paradox attack and initial dozen SIM cards measurements: https://arxiv.org/abs/2311.04658 Older university project, similar to Holepunch with more dev docs: github.com/Tribler/trustchain-superapp/&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="https://hackerpaper.kaipfister.de/p/2311.04658/"&gt;Paper and discussion history&lt;/a&gt;. A mention is not an endorsement.&lt;/p&gt;</description><category>cs.NI</category></item></channel></rss>
