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<rss version="2.0" xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom"><channel><title>Skill-Mix: a Flexible and Expandable Family of Evaluations for AI models · HackerPapers discussions</title><link>https://hackerpaper.kaipfister.de/p/2310.17567/</link><description>Collected HN comments and submissions linking this paper.</description><language>en</language><lastBuildDate>Mon, 02 Nov 2026 11:16:22 GMT</lastBuildDate><atom:link href="https://hackerpaper.kaipfister.de/p/2310.17567/feed.xml" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" /><item><title>Skill-Mix: a Flexible and Expandable Family of Evaluations for AI models — mentioned by visarga</title><link>https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39950255</link><guid isPermaLink="false">urn:hackerpapers:mention:2310.17567:39950255</guid><pubDate>Sat, 06 Apr 2024 05:39:08 GMT</pubDate><description>&lt;p&gt;I don&amp;#x27;t think this paper goes deep enough, they don&amp;#x27;t consider for example structured diversity seeding for LLMs, which entails prompting the model to combine diverse entities, knowledge and skills selected at random from a list. Random combinations of conditioning context can lead the model to hyper-diversity. The Skill-Mix paper shows how this can work. https://arxiv.org/abs/2310.17567 LLMs have been trained on everything, when they are also prompted by diverse people with their own tasks and styles it won&amp;#x27;t lead to knowledge collapse. Two diverse worlds meeting each other in chat LLM…&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="https://hackerpaper.kaipfister.de/p/2310.17567/"&gt;Paper and discussion history&lt;/a&gt;. A mention is not an endorsement.&lt;/p&gt;</description><category>cs.CL</category></item><item><title>Skill-Mix: a Flexible and Expandable Family of Evaluations for AI models — mentioned by visarga</title><link>https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39716412</link><guid isPermaLink="false">urn:hackerpapers:mention:2310.17567:39716412</guid><pubDate>Fri, 15 Mar 2024 14:51:50 GMT</pubDate><description>&lt;p&gt;Maybe the Skill Mix paper is relevant here. They define a list of 100 skills, and then randomly sample tuples of n skills (usually less than 6) and generate a test example using those skills. Apparently only GPT-4 (at the time of the paper) was able to compose 5 skills, the other models just 3 or 2. Beyond 5 skills even GPT-4 was doing much worse. The interesting finding of the paper is that GPT-4 couldn&amp;#x27;t have seen all the (topic, skill-tuple) combinations in the training set. If you have 10,000 examples on a topic, and use 5 out of 100 skills, you would need 100^5 training examples to cover…&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="https://hackerpaper.kaipfister.de/p/2310.17567/"&gt;Paper and discussion history&lt;/a&gt;. A mention is not an endorsement.&lt;/p&gt;</description><category>cs.CL</category></item><item><title>Skill-Mix: a Flexible and Expandable Family of Evaluations for AI models — mentioned by sp332</title><link>https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39306652</link><guid isPermaLink="false">urn:hackerpapers:mention:2310.17567:39306652</guid><pubDate>Thu, 08 Feb 2024 19:45:10 GMT</pubDate><description>&lt;p&gt;Well, sometimes. Sometimes not. https://arxiv.org/abs/2310.17567&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="https://hackerpaper.kaipfister.de/p/2310.17567/"&gt;Paper and discussion history&lt;/a&gt;. A mention is not an endorsement.&lt;/p&gt;</description><category>cs.CL</category></item><item><title>Skill-Mix: a Flexible and Expandable Family of Evaluations for AI models — HN submission</title><link>https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39270377</link><guid isPermaLink="false">urn:hackerpapers:submission:2310.17567:39270377</guid><pubDate>Tue, 06 Feb 2024 03:20:39 GMT</pubDate><description>&lt;p&gt;Skill-Mix: A Flexible and Expandable Family of Evaluations for AI Models&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;1 point; 0 discussion replies on HN. &lt;a href="https://hackerpaper.kaipfister.de/p/2310.17567/"&gt;Paper and source history&lt;/a&gt;. A submission is not an endorsement.&lt;/p&gt;</description><category>cs.CL</category></item><item><title>Skill-Mix: a Flexible and Expandable Family of Evaluations for AI models — mentioned by visarga</title><link>https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39213291</link><guid isPermaLink="false">urn:hackerpapers:mention:2310.17567:39213291</guid><pubDate>Thu, 01 Feb 2024 06:37:04 GMT</pubDate><description>&lt;p&gt;&amp;gt; Would you say that GPT-4 can reason now? Let&amp;#x27;s assume reasoning entails going beyond the stochastic parrot level. Can LLMs have skills not demonstrated in the training set? Here is a paper demonstrating that GPT-4 can combine up to 5 skills from a set of 100, effectively covering 100^5 tuples of skills, while only seeing much fewer combinations in training on a specific topic. &amp;gt; simple probability calculations indicate that GPT-4&amp;#x27;s reasonable performance on k=5 is suggestive of going beyond &amp;quot;stochastic parrot&amp;quot; behavior (Bender et al., 2021), i.e., it combines skills in ways that it had not…&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="https://hackerpaper.kaipfister.de/p/2310.17567/"&gt;Paper and discussion history&lt;/a&gt;. A mention is not an endorsement.&lt;/p&gt;</description><category>cs.CL</category></item><item><title>Skill-Mix: a Flexible and Expandable Family of Evaluations for AI models — mentioned by visarga</title><link>https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39212915</link><guid isPermaLink="false">urn:hackerpapers:mention:2310.17567:39212915</guid><pubDate>Thu, 01 Feb 2024 05:15:02 GMT</pubDate><description>&lt;p&gt;It&amp;#x27;s not perfect but it can reason, or solve many more situations than trained on. Here is a paper demonstrating that GPT-4 can combine up to 5 skills from a set of 100, effectively covering 100^5 tuples of skills, while only seeing much fewer combinations in training on a specific topic. &amp;gt; simple probability calculations indicate that GPT-4&amp;#x27;s reasonable performance on k=5 is suggestive of going beyond &amp;quot;stochastic parrot&amp;quot; behavior (Bender et al., 2021), i.e., it combines skills in ways that it had not seen during training https://arxiv.org/abs/2310.17567&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="https://hackerpaper.kaipfister.de/p/2310.17567/"&gt;Paper and discussion history&lt;/a&gt;. A mention is not an endorsement.&lt;/p&gt;</description><category>cs.CL</category></item><item><title>Skill-Mix: a Flexible and Expandable Family of Evaluations for AI models — mentioned by visarga</title><link>https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39106437</link><guid isPermaLink="false">urn:hackerpapers:mention:2310.17567:39106437</guid><pubDate>Tue, 23 Jan 2024 17:25:06 GMT</pubDate><description>&lt;p&gt;This article is 3 years old, right before GPT-3&amp;#x27;s launch. So it doesn&amp;#x27;t have all the recent info. We&amp;#x27;re not using meta-learning much, the problem of using few examples to train a model has been solved by few-shot prompting, zero shot, or fine-tuning with a small dataset. The problem with meta-learning is that it tries to back-propagate through the inner loop (the model) to the outer loop (meta-model), and this is hard to do. Since LLMs have such huge and diverse training sets, almost everything is in-distribution. LLMs are conditional probability distributions that can be steered with prompts…&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="https://hackerpaper.kaipfister.de/p/2310.17567/"&gt;Paper and discussion history&lt;/a&gt;. A mention is not an endorsement.&lt;/p&gt;</description><category>cs.CL</category></item><item><title>Skill-Mix: a Flexible and Expandable Family of Evaluations for AI models — mentioned by svat</title><link>https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39093788</link><guid isPermaLink="false">urn:hackerpapers:mention:2310.17567:39093788</guid><pubDate>Mon, 22 Jan 2024 19:02:57 GMT</pubDate><description>&lt;p&gt;What I understood: they assume a hypothetical bipartite graph with text nodes (like hypothetical paragraphs / chunks of texts) on one side, and “skill” nodes on the other. The skills could be things like: • ability to understand the word “because” [causality] • ability to divide two numbers • ability to detect irony Each text node is connected to all the skill nodes that are required to understand it. (This is a hypothetical graph, so we don&amp;#x27;t need to be able to write down the graph precisely, or define what “understand” or “required” mean here.) Further, each text node is either “successful”…&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="https://hackerpaper.kaipfister.de/p/2310.17567/"&gt;Paper and discussion history&lt;/a&gt;. A mention is not an endorsement.&lt;/p&gt;</description><category>cs.CL</category></item><item><title>Skill-Mix: a Flexible and Expandable Family of Evaluations for AI models — mentioned by svat</title><link>https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39093686</link><guid isPermaLink="false">urn:hackerpapers:mention:2310.17567:39093686</guid><pubDate>Mon, 22 Jan 2024 18:56:27 GMT</pubDate><description>&lt;p&gt;Quanta is usually careful to link to the actual papers (even if the reader has to be equally careful to find them), so it&amp;#x27;s surprising that the link is missing here. Another paper (linked from the article) is https://arxiv.org/abs/2310.17567&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="https://hackerpaper.kaipfister.de/p/2310.17567/"&gt;Paper and discussion history&lt;/a&gt;. A mention is not an endorsement.&lt;/p&gt;</description><category>cs.CL</category></item></channel></rss>
