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arXiv:2308.13449cs.CL

The Poison of Alignment

Aibek Bekbayev, Sungbae Chun, Yerzat Dulat, James Yamazaki

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From the perspective of content safety issues, alignment has shown to limit large language models' (LLMs) harmful content generation. This intentional method of reinforcing models to not respond to certain user inputs seem to be present in many modern open-source instruction tuning datasets such as OpenAssistant or Guanaco. We introduce a novel insight to an instruction-tuned model's performance affected by the presence of alignment in supervised fine-tuning dataset. To be specific, we noticed that alignment acts as if it is poisoning the instruction dataset. Experimentally, we demonstrate that aligned answers significantly worsen the performance of the resulting fine-tuned model's on various reasoning benchmarks such as Big Bench (BBH), Massive Multitask Language Understanding (MMLU), Human Eval, and Discrete Reasoning Over Paragraphs (DROP), performing worse than the counterpart tuned without alignment by 4-33%.

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    • Operator-aligned models are believed by many to be more performant. https://arxiv.org/pdf/2308.13449 Sometimes with hilarious consequences: https://youtu.be/efPrtcLdcdM

      benreesmanView on HNParent context

    • Ollama is not as powerful as llama.cpp or raw pytorch, but it is almost zero effort to get started. brew install ollama; ollama serve; ollama pull llama3: 8b-v2.9-q5_K_M; ollama run llama3: 8b-v2.9-q5_K_M https://ollama.com/library/dolphin-llama3:8b-v2.9-q5_K_M (It may need to…

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    • I remember there is a study about the alignment cost. Basically the more restrictions and limit you put on a model, the worse its general performance becomes. Things like a ban on violence, race, or any other sensitive topics effectively throttle or change how the model "reason"…

      galaxytachyonView on HNParent context

    • Found it, it is a pretty recent paper. https://arxiv.org/pdf/2308.13449.pdf

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