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<rss version="2.0" xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom"><channel><title>SequenceMatch: Imitation Learning for Autoregressive Sequence Modelling with Backtracking · HackerPapers discussions</title><link>https://hackerpaper.kaipfister.de/p/2306.05426/</link><description>Collected HN comments and submissions linking this paper.</description><language>en</language><lastBuildDate>Mon, 02 Nov 2026 11:16:22 GMT</lastBuildDate><atom:link href="https://hackerpaper.kaipfister.de/p/2306.05426/feed.xml" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" /><item><title>SequenceMatch: Imitation Learning for Autoregressive Sequence Modelling with Backtracking — mentioned by krackers</title><link>https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45494961</link><guid isPermaLink="false">urn:hackerpapers:mention:2306.05426:45494961</guid><pubDate>Mon, 06 Oct 2025 18:59:32 GMT</pubDate><description>&lt;p&gt;There have been attempts to give LLMs backspace tokens. Since no frontier model uses it I can only guess it doesn&amp;#x27;t scale as well as just letting it correct itself in COT https://arxiv.org/abs/2306.05426&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="https://hackerpaper.kaipfister.de/p/2306.05426/"&gt;Paper and discussion history&lt;/a&gt;. A mention is not an endorsement.&lt;/p&gt;</description><category>cs.LG</category></item><item><title>SequenceMatch: Imitation Learning for Autoregressive Sequence Modelling with Backtracking — mentioned by ijk</title><link>https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45488150</link><guid isPermaLink="false">urn:hackerpapers:mention:2306.05426:45488150</guid><pubDate>Mon, 06 Oct 2025 06:12:26 GMT</pubDate><description>&lt;p&gt;There&amp;#x27;s been a few attempts at training a backspace token, though. e.g.: https://arxiv.org/abs/2502.04404 https://arxiv.org/abs/2306.05426&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="https://hackerpaper.kaipfister.de/p/2306.05426/"&gt;Paper and discussion history&lt;/a&gt;. A mention is not an endorsement.&lt;/p&gt;</description><category>cs.LG</category></item><item><title>SequenceMatch: Imitation Learning for Autoregressive Sequence Modelling with Backtracking — mentioned by skissane</title><link>https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45121936</link><guid isPermaLink="false">urn:hackerpapers:mention:2306.05426:45121936</guid><pubDate>Thu, 04 Sep 2025 00:22:13 GMT</pubDate><description>&lt;p&gt;LLM backtracking is an active area of research, see e.g. https://arxiv.org/html/2502.04404v1 https://arxiv.org/abs/2306.05426 And I was wrong that nobody has implemented it, as these papers prove people have… it is just the results haven’t been sufficiently impressive to support the transition from the research lab to industrial use - or at least, not yet&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="https://hackerpaper.kaipfister.de/p/2306.05426/"&gt;Paper and discussion history&lt;/a&gt;. A mention is not an endorsement.&lt;/p&gt;</description><category>cs.LG</category></item><item><title>SequenceMatch: Imitation Learning for Autoregressive Sequence Modelling with Backtracking — mentioned by dev_hugepages</title><link>https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44846153</link><guid isPermaLink="false">urn:hackerpapers:mention:2306.05426:44846153</guid><pubDate>Sat, 09 Aug 2025 12:59:27 GMT</pubDate><description>&lt;p&gt;Research on the backspace token: https://arxiv.org/abs/2306.05426 &amp;gt; [...] The IL framework also allows us to incorporate backtracking by introducing a backspace action into the generation process [...]&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="https://hackerpaper.kaipfister.de/p/2306.05426/"&gt;Paper and discussion history&lt;/a&gt;. A mention is not an endorsement.&lt;/p&gt;</description><category>cs.LG</category></item><item><title>SequenceMatch: Imitation Learning for Autoregressive Sequence Modelling with Backtracking — mentioned by pizza</title><link>https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43980424</link><guid isPermaLink="false">urn:hackerpapers:mention:2306.05426:43980424</guid><pubDate>Wed, 14 May 2025 03:23:02 GMT</pubDate><description>&lt;p&gt;Another one: SequenceMatch: Imitation Learning for Autoregressive Sequence Modelling with Backtracking https://arxiv.org/abs/2306.05426 There was also an hn thread: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36425375&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="https://hackerpaper.kaipfister.de/p/2306.05426/"&gt;Paper and discussion history&lt;/a&gt;. A mention is not an endorsement.&lt;/p&gt;</description><category>cs.LG</category></item><item><title>SequenceMatch: Imitation Learning for Autoregressive Sequence Modelling with Backtracking — mentioned by twotwotwo</title><link>https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43853002</link><guid isPermaLink="false">urn:hackerpapers:mention:2306.05426:43853002</guid><pubDate>Thu, 01 May 2025 02:05:55 GMT</pubDate><description>&lt;p&gt;It&amp;#x27;s kind of weird to think that in a coding assistant, an LLM is regularly asked to produce a valid block of code top to bottom, or repeat a section of code with changes, when that&amp;#x27;s not what we do. (There are other intuitively odd things about this, like the amount of compute spent generating &amp;#x27;easy&amp;#x27; tokens, e.g. repeating unchanged code.) Some of that might be that models are just weird and intuition doesn&amp;#x27;t apply. But maybe the way we do it--jumping around, correcting as we go, etc.--is legitimately an efficient use of effort, and a model could do its job better, with less effort, or both…&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="https://hackerpaper.kaipfister.de/p/2306.05426/"&gt;Paper and discussion history&lt;/a&gt;. A mention is not an endorsement.&lt;/p&gt;</description><category>cs.LG</category></item><item><title>SequenceMatch: Imitation Learning for Autoregressive Sequence Modelling with Backtracking — mentioned by refulgentis</title><link>https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43450238</link><guid isPermaLink="false">urn:hackerpapers:mention:2306.05426:43450238</guid><pubDate>Sun, 23 Mar 2025 01:31:18 GMT</pubDate><description>&lt;p&gt;Latent space has a certain shape, which may mean I&amp;#x27;m missing a technical distinction.* There&amp;#x27;s been publications with a pause token (https://arxiv.org/abs/2310.02226), backspace token (https://arxiv.org/abs/2306.05426), or a think token (https://arxiv.org/html/2405.08644v1#Ch0.S4), all of them based on the theory that a generic token can sort of act a placeholder for manipulating attention further without further meaningful output. However, in practice, those approaches haven&amp;#x27;t been used in the training of a large scale model, i.e. I haven&amp;#x27;t seen it at all, the most adventurous people have…&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="https://hackerpaper.kaipfister.de/p/2306.05426/"&gt;Paper and discussion history&lt;/a&gt;. A mention is not an endorsement.&lt;/p&gt;</description><category>cs.LG</category></item><item><title>SequenceMatch: Imitation Learning for Autoregressive Sequence Modelling with Backtracking — mentioned by viraptor</title><link>https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40657496</link><guid isPermaLink="false">urn:hackerpapers:mention:2306.05426:40657496</guid><pubDate>Wed, 12 Jun 2024 12:48:15 GMT</pubDate><description>&lt;p&gt;The blockchain part is silly, because timestamping services exist without it https://www.sectigo.com/resource-library/time-stamping-serve... The rest is silly, because you can emulate the whole writing process by combining backtracking https://arxiv.org/abs/2306.05426 and a rewriting/rewording loop. With not much effort we can make LLM output look incredibly painstaking.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="https://hackerpaper.kaipfister.de/p/2306.05426/"&gt;Paper and discussion history&lt;/a&gt;. A mention is not an endorsement.&lt;/p&gt;</description><category>cs.LG</category></item><item><title>SequenceMatch: Imitation Learning for Autoregressive Sequence Modelling with Backtracking — mentioned by PartiallyTyped</title><link>https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36491176</link><guid isPermaLink="false">urn:hackerpapers:mention:2306.05426:36491176</guid><pubDate>Tue, 27 Jun 2023 10:46:01 GMT</pubDate><description>&lt;p&gt;&amp;gt; That&amp;#x27;s called beam search. There are other decoding approaches, other than beam search: https://arxiv.org/abs/2202.00666 &amp;gt; Other than that, things like gpt can&amp;#x27;t go back and edit what they&amp;#x27;ve outputted Actually, they can, they may emit a backspace token [1] [1] https://arxiv.org/abs/2306.05426, https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36425375&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="https://hackerpaper.kaipfister.de/p/2306.05426/"&gt;Paper and discussion history&lt;/a&gt;. A mention is not an endorsement.&lt;/p&gt;</description><category>cs.LG</category></item><item><title>SequenceMatch: Imitation Learning for Autoregressive Sequence Modelling with Backtracking — HN submission</title><link>https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36425375</link><guid isPermaLink="false">urn:hackerpapers:submission:2306.05426:36425375</guid><pubDate>Wed, 21 Jun 2023 22:10:35 GMT</pubDate><description>&lt;p&gt;Giving LLM’s a &amp;lt;Backspace&amp;gt; Token&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;82 points; 25 discussion replies on HN. &lt;a href="https://hackerpaper.kaipfister.de/p/2306.05426/"&gt;Paper and source history&lt;/a&gt;. A submission is not an endorsement.&lt;/p&gt;</description><category>cs.LG</category></item></channel></rss>
