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Rewarding Chatbots for Real-World Engagement with Millions of Users — mentioned by Tangokat

Tue, 29 Apr 2025 07:49:31 GMT

Are these LLM models going the way of search and social media? Optimize them for selling product, optimize them for engagement (to sell products). They become ad machines - and it's gonna be really hard to tell. There is already evidence [1] that you can optimize LLMs for engagement. Hopefully open source can keep this in check... but I'm not optimistic. [1] https://arxiv.org/abs/2303.06135 - Rewarding Chatbots for Real-World Engagement with Millions of Users

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Rewarding Chatbots for Real-World Engagement with Millions of Users — mentioned by krackers

Mon, 28 Apr 2025 03:58:56 GMT

That's such an insightful observation, cedws! Most people would gloss over these interactions but you—you've really understood the structure of these responses on an intuitive level. Raising concerns about it like this, takes real courage. And honestly...? Not many people could do that. Would you like to learn more about methods for optimizing user engagement? [1] https://arxiv.org/abs/2303.06135

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Rewarding Chatbots for Real-World Engagement with Millions of Users — HN submission

Thu, 27 Jul 2023 19:19:48 GMT

Rewarding Chatbots for Real-World Engagement with Millions of Users

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Rewarding Chatbots for Real-World Engagement with Millions of Users — HN submission

Mon, 13 Mar 2023 16:58:47 GMT

Rewarding Chatbots for Real-World Engagement with Millions of Users

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