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<rss version="2.0" xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom"><channel><title>Evil Never Sleeps: When Wireless Malware Stays On After Turning Off iPhones · HackerPapers discussions</title><link>https://hackerpaper.kaipfister.de/p/2205.06114/</link><description>Collected HN comments and submissions linking this paper.</description><language>en</language><lastBuildDate>Mon, 02 Nov 2026 11:16:22 GMT</lastBuildDate><atom:link href="https://hackerpaper.kaipfister.de/p/2205.06114/feed.xml" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" /><item><title>Evil Never Sleeps: When Wireless Malware Stays On After Turning Off iPhones — mentioned by aspenmayer</title><link>https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45012751</link><guid isPermaLink="false">urn:hackerpapers:mention:2205.06114:45012751</guid><pubDate>Mon, 25 Aug 2025 11:38:18 GMT</pubDate><description>&lt;p&gt;Leave your phone at home. You won&amp;#x27;t need it if you plan to not have it. A simple device like this can even keep it company for you while you&amp;#x27;re away: https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tourne-montre Print this out and you can take notes on the back of the page, or even read it if you get bored while you&amp;#x27;re out and about without your device, to remind yourself why you don&amp;#x27;t really need your phone: &amp;gt; Evil Never Sleeps: When Wireless Malware Stays On After Turning Off iPhones &amp;gt; Jiska Classen, Alexander Heinrich, Robert Reith, Matthias Hollick https://arxiv.org/abs/2205.06114 |…&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="https://hackerpaper.kaipfister.de/p/2205.06114/"&gt;Paper and discussion history&lt;/a&gt;. A mention is not an endorsement.&lt;/p&gt;</description><category>cs.CR</category></item><item><title>Evil Never Sleeps: When Wireless Malware Stays On After Turning Off iPhones — mentioned by PeterisP</title><link>https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34051221</link><guid isPermaLink="false">urn:hackerpapers:mention:2205.06114:34051221</guid><pubDate>Mon, 19 Dec 2022 12:18:36 GMT</pubDate><description>&lt;p&gt;And the quite capable computers that do things like being controllers for your hard drive, or wifi or other devices on your &amp;quot;computer&amp;quot; ? A relevant example is this article &amp;quot;Evil never sleeps&amp;quot; https://arxiv.org/abs/2205.06114 about the ability of those &amp;quot;secondary computers&amp;quot; to function without the cooperation of the primary computer, in this case the iPhone where they even work (sometimes maliciously) while the main device is &amp;quot;turned off&amp;quot;.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="https://hackerpaper.kaipfister.de/p/2205.06114/"&gt;Paper and discussion history&lt;/a&gt;. A mention is not an endorsement.&lt;/p&gt;</description><category>cs.CR</category></item><item><title>Evil Never Sleeps: When Wireless Malware Stays On After Turning Off iPhones — mentioned by lxgr</title><link>https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31686171</link><guid isPermaLink="false">urn:hackerpapers:mention:2205.06114:31686171</guid><pubDate>Thu, 09 Jun 2022 20:12:44 GMT</pubDate><description>&lt;p&gt;&amp;gt; “As far as we know, the only thing that definitely stops Bluetooth beacons is turning off your phone,” Bhaskar said. At least for recent Apple devices, that&amp;#x27;s not true anymore (intentionally, as it is used to support &amp;quot;Find my iPhone&amp;quot; even with a dead battery or on a phone that&amp;#x27;s been switched off): https://arxiv.org/abs/2205.06114&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="https://hackerpaper.kaipfister.de/p/2205.06114/"&gt;Paper and discussion history&lt;/a&gt;. A mention is not an endorsement.&lt;/p&gt;</description><category>cs.CR</category></item><item><title>Evil Never Sleeps: When Wireless Malware Stays On After Turning Off iPhones — mentioned by kornhole</title><link>https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31367558</link><guid isPermaLink="false">urn:hackerpapers:mention:2205.06114:31367558</guid><pubDate>Fri, 13 May 2022 13:48:54 GMT</pubDate><description>&lt;p&gt;And this just posted to HN today to explain in detail for you how the Iphone stays on and transmitting when you think it is off. https://arxiv.org/abs/2205.06114v1&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="https://hackerpaper.kaipfister.de/p/2205.06114/"&gt;Paper and discussion history&lt;/a&gt;. A mention is not an endorsement.&lt;/p&gt;</description><category>cs.CR</category></item><item><title>Evil Never Sleeps: When Wireless Malware Stays On After Turning Off iPhones — HN submission</title><link>https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31364849</link><guid isPermaLink="false">urn:hackerpapers:submission:2205.06114:31364849</guid><pubDate>Fri, 13 May 2022 08:39:19 GMT</pubDate><description>&lt;p&gt;When Wireless Malware Stays on After Turning Off iPhones [pdf]&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;36 points; 5 discussion replies on HN. &lt;a href="https://hackerpaper.kaipfister.de/p/2205.06114/"&gt;Paper and source history&lt;/a&gt;. A submission is not an endorsement.&lt;/p&gt;</description><category>cs.CR</category></item></channel></rss>
