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The Carbon Footprint of Machine Learning Training Will Plateau, Then Shrink — mentioned by gcr

Thu, 21 Aug 2025 17:26:10 GMT

My gosh you're right! The paper in question is https://arxiv.org/pdf/2204.05149, "The Carbon Footprint of Machine Learning Training Will Plateau, Then Shrink"

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The Carbon Footprint of Machine Learning Training Will Plateau, Then Shrink — mentioned by jeffbee

Tue, 05 Aug 2025 18:26:07 GMT

I'm not sure if that's true of not. As the article indicates, training for AI is naturally demand responsive. Training can move on the clock, and it can move around the world to minimize carbon footprint. See the PDF I just love to share: "Revamped Happy CO2e Paper" https://arxiv.org/pdf/2204.05149

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The Carbon Footprint of Machine Learning Training Will Plateau, Then Shrink — mentioned by jeffbee

Tue, 22 Jul 2025 23:04:08 GMT

These conclusions are broadly compatible with "The Carbon Footprint of Machine Learning Training Will Plateau, Then Shrink" or, as I prefer, the PDF metadata title that they left in there, "Revamped Happy CO2e Paper". Despite the incredible focus by the press on this topic, Mistral's lifecycle emissions in 18 months were less than the typical annual emissions of a single A320neo in commercial service. https://arxiv.org/pdf/2204.05149

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The Carbon Footprint of Machine Learning Training Will Plateau, Then Shrink — mentioned by kinston

Mon, 16 Jan 2023 17:18:42 GMT

People seem to miss the specific thing that was controversial about this paper: The paper gives inaccurate estimates of the carbon dioxide emissions that result from machine learning. My understanding is that this is the main reason why Google wanted the paper pulled. You can't have a paper by Google authors saying incorrect things about how much CO2 Google is emitting. The authors refused. They argued that they gave a citation for their numbers, and it's not their problem if the paper they cite is inaccurate. Eventually Google did publish a response: https://arxiv.org/abs/2204.05149 But this…

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The Carbon Footprint of Machine Learning Training Will Plateau, Then Shrink — HN submission

Sun, 17 Apr 2022 20:43:00 GMT

The Carbon Footprint of Machine Learning Training Will Plateau, Then Shrink

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