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<rss version="2.0" xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom"><channel><title>Deep Learning without Shortcuts: Shaping the Kernel with Tailored Rectifiers · HackerPapers discussions</title><link>https://hackerpaper.kaipfister.de/p/2203.08120/</link><description>Collected HN comments and submissions linking this paper.</description><language>en</language><lastBuildDate>Mon, 02 Nov 2026 11:16:22 GMT</lastBuildDate><atom:link href="https://hackerpaper.kaipfister.de/p/2203.08120/feed.xml" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" /><item><title>Deep Learning without Shortcuts: Shaping the Kernel with Tailored Rectifiers — mentioned by p1esk</title><link>https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38843816</link><guid isPermaLink="false">urn:hackerpapers:mention:2203.08120:38843816</guid><pubDate>Tue, 02 Jan 2024 16:57:49 GMT</pubDate><description>&lt;p&gt;You&amp;#x27;re doing it again - presenting guesses as facts. Why would a resnet - a batch normalized network using ReLU activations suffer from vanishing gradient problem? Does it? Have you actually done the experiment you&amp;#x27;ve described? I have, and I didn&amp;#x27;t see gradients vanish. Sometimes gradients exploded - likely from a bad weights initialization (to be clear - that&amp;#x27;s a guess), and sometimes they didn&amp;#x27;t, but even when they didn&amp;#x27;t the networks never converged. The best we can do is to say: &amp;quot;skip connections seem to help training deep networks, and we have a few guesses as why, none of which is very…&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="https://hackerpaper.kaipfister.de/p/2203.08120/"&gt;Paper and discussion history&lt;/a&gt;. A mention is not an endorsement.&lt;/p&gt;</description><category>cs.LG</category></item></channel></rss>
