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<rss version="2.0" xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom"><channel><title>On the Multilingual Capabilities of Very Large-Scale English Language Models · HackerPapers discussions</title><link>https://hackerpaper.kaipfister.de/p/2108.13349/</link><description>Collected HN comments and submissions linking this paper.</description><language>en</language><lastBuildDate>Mon, 02 Nov 2026 11:16:22 GMT</lastBuildDate><atom:link href="https://hackerpaper.kaipfister.de/p/2108.13349/feed.xml" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" /><item><title>On the Multilingual Capabilities of Very Large-Scale English Language Models — mentioned by famouswaffles</title><link>https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40202951</link><guid isPermaLink="false">urn:hackerpapers:mention:2108.13349:40202951</guid><pubDate>Mon, 29 Apr 2024 19:32:17 GMT</pubDate><description>&lt;p&gt;&amp;gt;I wasn&amp;#x27;t talking about &amp;quot;state of the art LLMs,&amp;quot; I am aware that commercial offerings are much better trained in Spanish. This was a thought experiment based on comments from people testing GPT-3.5 with Swahili. A thought experiment from other people comments on another language. So...No. Fabricating failure modes from their personally constructed ideas about how LLMs work seems to be a frustratingly common occurrence in these kinds of discussions. &amp;gt;Frustratingly, just few months ago I read a paper describing how LLMs excessively rely on English-language representations of ideas, but now I…&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="https://hackerpaper.kaipfister.de/p/2108.13349/"&gt;Paper and discussion history&lt;/a&gt;. A mention is not an endorsement.&lt;/p&gt;</description><category>cs.CL</category></item><item><title>On the Multilingual Capabilities of Very Large-Scale English Language Models — mentioned by famouswaffles</title><link>https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38575788</link><guid isPermaLink="false">urn:hackerpapers:mention:2108.13349:38575788</guid><pubDate>Fri, 08 Dec 2023 22:51:25 GMT</pubDate><description>&lt;p&gt;Language Models trained at the size and data they tested are pretty terrible to begin with, translation or not. Like I said, the crucial thing is that it looks to be a diminishing gap. I&amp;#x27;m not saying parallel corpora is doing nothing or is unimportant but that&amp;#x27;s a clue that monolingual competency of the languages in question is the biggest factor here. The extreme positive transfer language models exhibit in terms of multilingual competency is another clue. https://arxiv.org/abs/2108.13349 Parallel corpora may be a crutch with fading relevance.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="https://hackerpaper.kaipfister.de/p/2108.13349/"&gt;Paper and discussion history&lt;/a&gt;. A mention is not an endorsement.&lt;/p&gt;</description><category>cs.CL</category></item><item><title>On the Multilingual Capabilities of Very Large-Scale English Language Models — mentioned by famouswaffles</title><link>https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37758760</link><guid isPermaLink="false">urn:hackerpapers:mention:2108.13349:37758760</guid><pubDate>Tue, 03 Oct 2023 23:04:03 GMT</pubDate><description>&lt;p&gt;&amp;gt;on what basis? What makes a predictor LLM better at translating Latin than a system trained specifically for translation? They just are. Sure it sounds a bit strange if you&amp;#x27;ve never thought about it but they are. &amp;gt;I&amp;#x27;m sure they can do a decent job but it&amp;#x27;s weird to me that someone would leap to GPT-style tech despite its known tendency to hallucinate/make stuff up instead of translation-oriented tools like DeepL or Google Translate 1. They don&amp;#x27;t just potentially do a decent job. For a couple dozen languages, GPT-4 is by far the best translator you can get your hands on. Google, Deepl are not…&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="https://hackerpaper.kaipfister.de/p/2108.13349/"&gt;Paper and discussion history&lt;/a&gt;. A mention is not an endorsement.&lt;/p&gt;</description><category>cs.CL</category></item><item><title>On the Multilingual Capabilities of Very Large-Scale English Language Models — mentioned by famouswaffles</title><link>https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36682625</link><guid isPermaLink="false">urn:hackerpapers:mention:2108.13349:36682625</guid><pubDate>Tue, 11 Jul 2023 15:45:22 GMT</pubDate><description>&lt;p&gt;1. LLMs are general pattern machines. They can generalize and complete in context to a wide variety of complex non linguistic patterns.https://general-pattern-machines.github.io/ 2. LLMs see positive transfer in multi lingual capability. For example, an LLM trained on 500B tokens of English and 10B tokens of French will not speak in french like a model trained on only 10B tokens of French. What will happen is that the model will be nearly as competent in French as it is in English https://arxiv.org/abs/2108.13349 3. Language models of code reason better even if the benchmarks have nothing to…&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="https://hackerpaper.kaipfister.de/p/2108.13349/"&gt;Paper and discussion history&lt;/a&gt;. A mention is not an endorsement.&lt;/p&gt;</description><category>cs.CL</category></item><item><title>On the Multilingual Capabilities of Very Large-Scale English Language Models — mentioned by famouswaffles</title><link>https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35515762</link><guid isPermaLink="false">urn:hackerpapers:mention:2108.13349:35515762</guid><pubDate>Mon, 10 Apr 2023 18:39:59 GMT</pubDate><description>&lt;p&gt;Doesn&amp;#x27;t really matter. There&amp;#x27;s lots of positive transfer in individual language learning. Competence in one language bleeds into competence in others. https://arxiv.org/abs/2108.13349 GPT-3 is fluent in many languages despite English taking up 93% of the corpus by word count. French is next with 1.8% https://github.com/openai/gpt-3/blob/master/dataset_statisti... Dunno the statistics of language presence with GPT-4 but it takes it up another level in terms of its multilingual capabilities.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="https://hackerpaper.kaipfister.de/p/2108.13349/"&gt;Paper and discussion history&lt;/a&gt;. A mention is not an endorsement.&lt;/p&gt;</description><category>cs.CL</category></item><item><title>On the Multilingual Capabilities of Very Large-Scale English Language Models — mentioned by famouswaffles</title><link>https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35157060</link><guid isPermaLink="false">urn:hackerpapers:mention:2108.13349:35157060</guid><pubDate>Tue, 14 Mar 2023 19:26:09 GMT</pubDate><description>&lt;p&gt;They don&amp;#x27;t perform poorly (depends on how much corpus training the language received). https://arxiv.org/abs/2108.13349. The important thing is you don&amp;#x27;t need an equivalent number of tokens for an equivalent performance. So even though GPT-3 only had 1.8 % french by word count, it can speak fluent french. There&amp;#x27;s positive transfer between languages. Also GLM-130B trained on equal English/Chinese (200b tokens each. 400b total) speaks both just fine.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="https://hackerpaper.kaipfister.de/p/2108.13349/"&gt;Paper and discussion history&lt;/a&gt;. A mention is not an endorsement.&lt;/p&gt;</description><category>cs.CL</category></item></channel></rss>
