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<rss version="2.0" xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom"><channel><title>Phase Space Formulation of Quantum Mechanics as an Hidden Variables Theory · HackerPapers discussions</title><link>https://hackerpaper.kaipfister.de/p/2105.00242/</link><description>Collected HN comments and submissions linking this paper.</description><language>en</language><lastBuildDate>Mon, 02 Nov 2026 11:16:22 GMT</lastBuildDate><atom:link href="https://hackerpaper.kaipfister.de/p/2105.00242/feed.xml" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" /><item><title>Phase Space Formulation of Quantum Mechanics as an Hidden Variables Theory — mentioned by mjreacher</title><link>https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30652981</link><guid isPermaLink="false">urn:hackerpapers:mention:2105.00242:30652981</guid><pubDate>Sat, 12 Mar 2022 17:27:13 GMT</pubDate><description>&lt;p&gt;For your first claim I think you&amp;#x27;ll find what von Neumann claimed is a lot more limited than you think, and even then what exactly was interpreted is still up for debate, see from last year: https://arxiv.org/abs/2105.00242 https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s10701-021-00474-5 https://arxiv.org/abs/2105.13996 Likewise, for your second claim I think you&amp;#x27;ll find von Neumann said that the collapse of the wavefunction can be placed anywhere in a measurement chain, from the first measuring device to the observer&amp;#x27;s conscious perception of the measurement result. The stronger claims about…&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="https://hackerpaper.kaipfister.de/p/2105.00242/"&gt;Paper and discussion history&lt;/a&gt;. A mention is not an endorsement.&lt;/p&gt;</description><category>quant-ph</category></item></channel></rss>
