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arXiv:2102.06824gr-qc

Introducing Physical Warp Drives

Alexey Bobrick, Gianni Martire

Abstract

The Alcubierre warp drive is an exotic solution in general relativity. It allows for superluminal travel at the cost of enormous amounts of matter with negative mass density. For this reason, the Alcubierre warp drive has been widely considered unphysical. In this study, we develop a model of a general warp drive spacetime in classical relativity that encloses all existing warp drive definitions and allows for new metrics without the most serious issues present in the Alcubierre solution. We present the first general model for subluminal positive-energy, spherically symmetric warp drives; construct superluminal warp-drive solutions which satisfy quantum inequalities; provide optimizations for the Alcubierre metric that decrease the negative energy requirements by two orders of magnitude; and introduce a warp drive spacetime in which space capacity and the rate of time can be chosen in a controlled manner. Conceptually, we demonstrate that any warp drive, including the Alcubierre drive, is a shell of regular or exotic material moving inertially with a certain velocity. Therefore, any warp drive requires propulsion. We show that a class of subluminal, spherically symmetric warp drive spacetimes, at least in principle, can be constructed based on the physical principles known to humanity today.

arXiv comments
Accepted in CQG, comments welcome
Journal reference
DOI
doi:10.1088/1361-6382/abdf6e
Subjects
gr-qcGeneral Relativity and Quantum Cosmology

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    • https://arxiv.org/abs/2102.06824 for an unpaywalled version of the paper. I (kind of) understand their argument, but am unclear on how the physical shell is supposed to be filled with energy, eg is one supposed to just get inside and hook it up to the terminals of a battery or…

      anigbrowlView on HNParent context

    • > Are they talking about a reactionless drive? No. The “warp shell allows one to modify the state of spacetime inside it…the time in the inner region may go faster or slower than it would go without the shell” [1]. Being “internally moving shells of normal or exotic matter,”…

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    • > Would a sub light warp drive be much different performance wise from, say, a fusion torch engine with insane iSP Yes. The “warp shell allows one to modify the state of spacetime inside it…the time in the inner region may go faster or slower than it would go without the shell”…

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  1. Physical Warp Drives (2021) 3 comments
    • "Conceptually, we demonstrate that any warp drive, including the Alcubierre drive, is a shell of regular or exotic material moving inertially with a certain velocity. Therefore, any warp drive requires propulsion. We show that a class of subluminal, spherically symmetric warp…

      JPLeRouzicView on HNParent context

    • It's an article about theoretical physics published in the 21st century, so it would be very surprising if it had not been posted on the arXiv before being published in a journal. And sure enough: https://arxiv.org/abs/2102.06824

      SteuardView on HNParent context

    • > the math works, and it looks like it should be possible The math can only work (if it even does) in exceptionally constrained circumstances. The main purely-theoretical issue is that the paper's <https://arxiv.org/abs/2102.06824v2> solution is wholly spherically symmetric, and…

      raattgiftView on HNParent context

    • It looks like we're getting closer and closer to making this a reality. Recently (this year) some other people published a sort of reworking of the Alcubierre drive[1], I wonder how much (if at all) better this paper will fit with that. For those who'd like a more accessible way…

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  2. Physical Warp Drives 3 comments
    • Arxiv: https://arxiv.org/abs/2102.06824

      _MicroftView on HNParent context

    • Am I correct that the interesting thing about subluminal warp drives is that they do not require working mass for propulsion? So if we had such a warp drive, we could put energy in and get motion out of it, without being subject to the tyranny of the rocket equation? It seems…

      _MicroftView on HNParent context

    • https://arxiv.org/abs/2102.06824 looks like CQG spell-checker added a subliminal typo in the abstract :)

      jbdistakenView on HNParent context

    • I presently have no time to get into GR, but surely wish I did. Here instead of comment I offer two papers: Erik Lentz (underlying the work in the press release here): https://arxiv.org/pdf/2006.07125.pdf And similar seeming work by another group at something called the…

      tobmltView on HNParent context

    • There appears to be a newer and more extensive paper that encompasses and expands on Lentz' work, while also claiming Lentz's paper was mathematically incomplete or un-reproducible in some way: Bobrick A, Martire G. Introducing physical warp drives. Classical and Quantum…

      100ideasView on HNParent context

    • Arxiv link for people interested in the source rather than a journalists take. https://arxiv.org/abs/2102.06824

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