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If Loud Aliens Explain Human Earliness, Quiet Aliens Are Also Rare — mentioned by ben_w

Fri, 15 Nov 2024 14:52:52 GMT

It was, and we are the goo. Though if you mean "physically disassemble the Earth", conditional on us having not noticed them yet, there's this: https://arxiv.org/pdf/2102.01522

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If Loud Aliens Explain Human Earliness, Quiet Aliens Are Also Rare — mentioned by ben_w

Fri, 15 Nov 2024 14:51:13 GMT

If you make reasonable assumptions about grabby aliens (the kind that wants to do VN probes and get here anyway), and condition on us having not yet noticed, then the current modelling suggests about 40-50% of the universe has already been occupied by them — the only reason we wouldn't have noticed is that light from the expansion just hasn't reached us yet. https://arxiv.org/pdf/2102.01522

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If Loud Aliens Explain Human Earliness, Quiet Aliens Are Also Rare — mentioned by oraphalous

Thu, 06 Jun 2024 01:15:15 GMT

Reminds me a quite a bit of the plot line from Liu Cixin's The Dark Forest. When aliens are set to wipe out humanity in 400 years, the idea of a small number of elites escaping in generation ships is so abhorrent to the masses that would be left behind, that 'Escapism' is deemed a crime and banned. I wonder if among civilisations generally in the universe, this resentment is so common, it could be counted as a "hard step" in Robin Hanson's grabby aliens model. https://arxiv.org/pdf/2102.01522

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If Loud Aliens Explain Human Earliness, Quiet Aliens Are Also Rare — HN submission

Thu, 10 Nov 2022 06:10:55 GMT

If Loud Aliens Explain Human Earliness, Quiet Aliens Are Also Rare (2021)

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If Loud Aliens Explain Human Earliness, Quiet Aliens Are Also Rare — mentioned by est31

Wed, 22 Sep 2021 14:29:52 GMT

HTML version: https://www.arxiv-vanity.com/papers/2102.01522/

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If Loud Aliens Explain Human Earliness, Quiet Aliens Are Also Rare — mentioned by jefftk

Wed, 22 Sep 2021 14:24:26 GMT

> this isn’t a research paper It's the host organization's announcement for https://arxiv.org/pdf/2102.01522.pdf

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If Loud Aliens Explain Human Earliness, Quiet Aliens Are Also Rare — mentioned by jefftk

Wed, 22 Sep 2021 14:22:44 GMT

Full paper: https://arxiv.org/pdf/2102.01522.pdf

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If Loud Aliens Explain Human Earliness, Quiet Aliens Are Also Rare — mentioned by gadtfly

Sat, 06 Feb 2021 18:16:12 GMT

Paper: https://arxiv.org/abs/2102.01522 HN discussion of paper: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26045731

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If Loud Aliens Explain Human Earliness, Quiet Aliens Are Also Rare — HN submission

Sat, 06 Feb 2021 10:57:20 GMT

A Simple Model of Grabby Aliens

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If Loud Aliens Explain Human Earliness, Quiet Aliens Are Also Rare — HN submission

Wed, 03 Feb 2021 20:02:00 GMT

A Simple Model of Grabby Aliens

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