https://hackerpaper.kaipfister.de/p/2008.04071/Collected HN comments and submissions linking this paper.enMon, 02 Nov 2026 11:16:22 GMThttps://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49781223urn:hackerpapers:mention:2008.04071:49781223Sun, 20 Sep 2026 23:30:12 GMT<p>This guy is on the ball with the problem. Totally correct: Like my friend Coda says all the time: &quot;the textual nature of prompts leads us to take the intentional stance towards systems which aren’t conscious, and thus miss the essential nature of their non-meaning.&quot; I don&#x27;t know if his solution (&quot;&quot;We should all go insane building interlocking evaluation and optimization pipelines, instead.&quot;) would be the long-term solution. Instead perhaps something could be trained into the models, i.e., he is describing a process at inference time that could be done at training time. To make their weird…</p><p><a href="https://hackerpaper.kaipfister.de/p/2008.04071/">Paper and discussion history</a>. A mention is not an endorsement.</p>cs.CY