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<rss version="2.0" xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom"><channel><title>Mirostat: A Neural Text Decoding Algorithm that Directly Controls Perplexity · HackerPapers discussions</title><link>https://hackerpaper.kaipfister.de/p/2007.14966/</link><description>Collected HN comments and submissions linking this paper.</description><language>en</language><lastBuildDate>Mon, 02 Nov 2026 11:16:22 GMT</lastBuildDate><atom:link href="https://hackerpaper.kaipfister.de/p/2007.14966/feed.xml" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" /><item><title>Mirostat: A Neural Text Decoding Algorithm that Directly Controls Perplexity — mentioned by tibbar</title><link>https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47148310</link><guid isPermaLink="false">urn:hackerpapers:mention:2007.14966:47148310</guid><pubDate>Wed, 25 Feb 2026 07:05:07 GMT</pubDate><description>&lt;p&gt;Determinism in agents is a complex topic because there are several different layers of abstraction, each of which may introduce its own non-determinism. But yeah, it is going to be difficult to induce determinism in a commercial coding agent, for reasons discussed below. However, we can start by claiming that non-determinism is not necessarily a bad thing - non-greedy token sampling helps prevent certain degenerate/repetitive states and tends to produce overall higher quality responses [0]. I would also observe that part of the yin-yang of working with the agents is letting go of the idea…&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="https://hackerpaper.kaipfister.de/p/2007.14966/"&gt;Paper and discussion history&lt;/a&gt;. A mention is not an endorsement.&lt;/p&gt;</description><category>cs.CL</category></item><item><title>Mirostat: A Neural Text Decoding Algorithm that Directly Controls Perplexity — mentioned by numeri</title><link>https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38906649</link><guid isPermaLink="false">urn:hackerpapers:mention:2007.14966:38906649</guid><pubDate>Mon, 08 Jan 2024 00:16:43 GMT</pubDate><description>&lt;p&gt;Almost all LLM inference these days includes a repetition penalty, to help prevent models from falling into this pattern, the so-called &amp;quot;boredom trap&amp;quot; [1]. Once the model repeats itself once, that greatly increases the chances that the next best token is another repetition (for a raw model like this, at least, that hasn&amp;#x27;t been chat/instruct/RLHF fine-tuned). I ran the same prompt with a repetition penalty of 1.1 and got this: The mountain in front of me was a little higher than the other two, and I could see the top of the mountain. I&amp;#x27;m going to climb it,&amp;quot; I said. &amp;quot;It&amp;#x27;s a good place for a…&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="https://hackerpaper.kaipfister.de/p/2007.14966/"&gt;Paper and discussion history&lt;/a&gt;. A mention is not an endorsement.&lt;/p&gt;</description><category>cs.CL</category></item></channel></rss>
