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<rss version="2.0" xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom"><channel><title>Descending through a Crowded Valley - Benchmarking Deep Learning Optimizers · HackerPapers discussions</title><link>https://hackerpaper.kaipfister.de/p/2007.01547/</link><description>Collected HN comments and submissions linking this paper.</description><language>en</language><lastBuildDate>Mon, 02 Nov 2026 11:16:22 GMT</lastBuildDate><atom:link href="https://hackerpaper.kaipfister.de/p/2007.01547/feed.xml" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" /><item><title>Descending through a Crowded Valley - Benchmarking Deep Learning Optimizers — mentioned by kajecounterhack</title><link>https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30548647</link><guid isPermaLink="false">urn:hackerpapers:mention:2007.01547:30548647</guid><pubDate>Thu, 03 Mar 2022 23:44:19 GMT</pubDate><description>&lt;p&gt;OP doesn&amp;#x27;t weight the size of each technology by adoption -- if they did that then yeah there are some centroids. But I think their point is correct that parts of the ecosystem remain quite fragmented. &amp;gt; For example, when I first got into ML the ADAM optimizer was the new big thing, since then hundreds of &amp;#x27;better&amp;#x27; optimizers have been published. This paper from August &amp;#x27;21 shows that most of that is overblown and no optimizer consistently outperforms ADAM: https://arxiv.org/pdf/2007.01547.pdf FWIW this paper acknowledges that optimizer is application-dependent, yet draws its conclusions from &amp;lt;…&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="https://hackerpaper.kaipfister.de/p/2007.01547/"&gt;Paper and discussion history&lt;/a&gt;. A mention is not an endorsement.&lt;/p&gt;</description><category>cs.LG</category></item><item><title>Descending through a Crowded Valley - Benchmarking Deep Learning Optimizers — mentioned by a_bonobo</title><link>https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30538690</link><guid isPermaLink="false">urn:hackerpapers:mention:2007.01547:30538690</guid><pubDate>Thu, 03 Mar 2022 08:47:19 GMT</pubDate><description>&lt;p&gt;As a researcher applying ML in my work the OP reads like me looking from the outside at web-frameworks: there&amp;#x27;s a LOT of noise but in practice, people run just the same 3 things. For example, when I first got into ML the ADAM optimizer was the new big thing, since then hundreds of &amp;#x27;better&amp;#x27; optimizers have been published. This paper from August &amp;#x27;21 shows that most of that is overblown and no optimizer consistently outperforms ADAM: https://arxiv.org/pdf/2007.01547.pdf I&amp;#x27;d even go so far and say that OP&amp;#x27;s big image of MLOps is misleading. &amp;#x27;Data Science Notebooks&amp;#x27; shows Jupyter, binder, colab, I…&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="https://hackerpaper.kaipfister.de/p/2007.01547/"&gt;Paper and discussion history&lt;/a&gt;. A mention is not an endorsement.&lt;/p&gt;</description><category>cs.LG</category></item></channel></rss>
