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<rss version="2.0" xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom"><channel><title>Risks from Learned Optimization in Advanced Machine Learning Systems · HackerPapers discussions</title><link>https://hackerpaper.kaipfister.de/p/1906.01820/</link><description>Collected HN comments and submissions linking this paper.</description><language>en</language><lastBuildDate>Mon, 02 Nov 2026 11:16:22 GMT</lastBuildDate><atom:link href="https://hackerpaper.kaipfister.de/p/1906.01820/feed.xml" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" /><item><title>Risks from Learned Optimization in Advanced Machine Learning Systems — mentioned by 0xDEAFBEAD</title><link>https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38340107</link><guid isPermaLink="false">urn:hackerpapers:mention:1906.01820:38340107</guid><pubDate>Mon, 20 Nov 2023 00:02:41 GMT</pubDate><description>&lt;p&gt;Read the mesa-optimization paper I linked elsewhere in this thread: https://arxiv.org/pdf/1906.01820.pdf Eliezer&amp;#x27;s point is that if AI researchers aren&amp;#x27;t looking for anomalous behavior that could indicate a potential danger, they won&amp;#x27;t find it.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="https://hackerpaper.kaipfister.de/p/1906.01820/"&gt;Paper and discussion history&lt;/a&gt;. A mention is not an endorsement.&lt;/p&gt;</description><category>cs.AI</category></item><item><title>Risks from Learned Optimization in Advanced Machine Learning Systems — mentioned by 0xDEAFBEAD</title><link>https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38336374</link><guid isPermaLink="false">urn:hackerpapers:mention:1906.01820:38336374</guid><pubDate>Sun, 19 Nov 2023 18:57:58 GMT</pubDate><description>&lt;p&gt;I see how some of his tweets could come across as crank-ish if you don&amp;#x27;t have a background in AI alignment. AI alignment is sort of like computer security in the sense that you&amp;#x27;re trying to guard against the unknown. If there was a way to push a button which told you the biggest security flaw in the software you&amp;#x27;re writing, then the task of writing secure software would be far easier. But instead we have to assume the existence of bugs, and apply principles like defense-in-depth and least privilege to mitigate whatever exploits may exist. In the same way, much of AI alignment consists of…&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="https://hackerpaper.kaipfister.de/p/1906.01820/"&gt;Paper and discussion history&lt;/a&gt;. A mention is not an endorsement.&lt;/p&gt;</description><category>cs.AI</category></item><item><title>Risks from Learned Optimization in Advanced Machine Learning Systems — HN submission</title><link>https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31011078</link><guid isPermaLink="false">urn:hackerpapers:submission:1906.01820:31011078</guid><pubDate>Wed, 13 Apr 2022 03:57:42 GMT</pubDate><description>&lt;p&gt;Risks from Learned Optimization in Advanced Machine Learning Systems&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;2 points; 0 discussion replies on HN. &lt;a href="https://hackerpaper.kaipfister.de/p/1906.01820/"&gt;Paper and source history&lt;/a&gt;. A submission is not an endorsement.&lt;/p&gt;</description><category>cs.AI</category></item></channel></rss>
