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<rss version="2.0" xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom"><channel><title>The Android Platform Security Model (2023) · HackerPapers discussions</title><link>https://hackerpaper.kaipfister.de/p/1904.05572/</link><description>Collected HN comments and submissions linking this paper.</description><language>en</language><lastBuildDate>Mon, 02 Nov 2026 11:16:22 GMT</lastBuildDate><atom:link href="https://hackerpaper.kaipfister.de/p/1904.05572/feed.xml" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" /><item><title>The Android Platform Security Model (2023) — mentioned by surajrmal</title><link>https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49055211</link><guid isPermaLink="false">urn:hackerpapers:mention:1904.05572:49055211</guid><pubDate>Sun, 26 Jul 2026 06:02:28 GMT</pubDate><description>&lt;p&gt;It sounds like you are just at odds with the android security model: https://arxiv.org/pdf/1904.05572&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="https://hackerpaper.kaipfister.de/p/1904.05572/"&gt;Paper and discussion history&lt;/a&gt;. A mention is not an endorsement.&lt;/p&gt;</description><category>cs.CR</category></item><item><title>The Android Platform Security Model (2023) — HN submission</title><link>https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48034727</link><guid isPermaLink="false">urn:hackerpapers:submission:1904.05572:48034727</guid><pubDate>Wed, 06 May 2026 10:49:15 GMT</pubDate><description>&lt;p&gt;The Android Platform Security Model (2023)&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;2 points; 0 discussion replies on HN. &lt;a href="https://hackerpaper.kaipfister.de/p/1904.05572/"&gt;Paper and source history&lt;/a&gt;. A submission is not an endorsement.&lt;/p&gt;</description><category>cs.CR</category></item><item><title>The Android Platform Security Model (2023) — mentioned by Andromxda</title><link>https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47268198</link><guid isPermaLink="false">urn:hackerpapers:mention:1904.05572:47268198</guid><pubDate>Thu, 05 Mar 2026 22:31:44 GMT</pubDate><description>&lt;p&gt;Of course the topic as a whole is much more complex than that, but I&amp;#x27;ll try to summarize it. Android has 3 systems of access control [1][2]: - Discretionary Access Control, i.e. the standard Unix file permissions - Mandatory Access Control, implemented in the form of the SELinux and YAMA LSMs (GrapheneOS stopped using YAMA in the 2024031400 release and replaced it with advanced SELinux policies) - Android permissions which have to be disclosed in the AndroidManifest.xml, and most of the time need to be granted by the user at runtime Root simply bypasses ALL of these security mechanisms. This…&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="https://hackerpaper.kaipfister.de/p/1904.05572/"&gt;Paper and discussion history&lt;/a&gt;. A mention is not an endorsement.&lt;/p&gt;</description><category>cs.CR</category></item><item><title>The Android Platform Security Model (2023) — HN submission</title><link>https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43586680</link><guid isPermaLink="false">urn:hackerpapers:submission:1904.05572:43586680</guid><pubDate>Fri, 04 Apr 2025 19:25:19 GMT</pubDate><description>&lt;p&gt;The Android Platform Security Model v3 (2023)&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;3 points; 0 discussion replies on HN. &lt;a href="https://hackerpaper.kaipfister.de/p/1904.05572/"&gt;Paper and source history&lt;/a&gt;. A submission is not an endorsement.&lt;/p&gt;</description><category>cs.CR</category></item><item><title>The Android Platform Security Model (2023) — mentioned by ignoramous</title><link>https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43524412</link><guid isPermaLink="false">urn:hackerpapers:mention:1904.05572:43524412</guid><pubDate>Sun, 30 Mar 2025 14:18:46 GMT</pubDate><description>&lt;p&gt;A more recent (2023) sandboxing + isolation overview by the Android team: https://arxiv.org/html/1904.05572v3/ (section 4.3)&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="https://hackerpaper.kaipfister.de/p/1904.05572/"&gt;Paper and discussion history&lt;/a&gt;. A mention is not an endorsement.&lt;/p&gt;</description><category>cs.CR</category></item><item><title>The Android Platform Security Model (2023) — mentioned by gradeless</title><link>https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30527011</link><guid isPermaLink="false">urn:hackerpapers:mention:1904.05572:30527011</guid><pubDate>Wed, 02 Mar 2022 13:20:45 GMT</pubDate><description>&lt;p&gt;Theres a lot more to the android app sandbox than just running processes as seperate users. Theoretically something similar could be implemented in some other &amp;#x27;typical linux system&amp;#x27;. It would be a huge undertaking. If you are thinking about security need to consider not only malicious apps, but possible attack vectors opened up by any application. This paper is a couple of years old, it explains how it all works on Android https://arxiv.org/abs/1904.05572&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="https://hackerpaper.kaipfister.de/p/1904.05572/"&gt;Paper and discussion history&lt;/a&gt;. A mention is not an endorsement.&lt;/p&gt;</description><category>cs.CR</category></item><item><title>The Android Platform Security Model (2023) — mentioned by lolinder</title><link>https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30508527</link><guid isPermaLink="false">urn:hackerpapers:mention:1904.05572:30508527</guid><pubDate>Tue, 01 Mar 2022 02:26:56 GMT</pubDate><description>&lt;p&gt;There&amp;#x27;s a paper by several Google employees describing it. I haven&amp;#x27;t read it, just skimmed and searched keywords, but near as I can tell it doesn&amp;#x27;t mention anything like what the OP thinks it does: https://arxiv.org/abs/1904.05572 See my other comment for what I did find, which is exactly the opposite of what OP says: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30507713&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="https://hackerpaper.kaipfister.de/p/1904.05572/"&gt;Paper and discussion history&lt;/a&gt;. A mention is not an endorsement.&lt;/p&gt;</description><category>cs.CR</category></item><item><title>The Android Platform Security Model (2023) — mentioned by lolinder</title><link>https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30507713</link><guid isPermaLink="false">urn:hackerpapers:mention:1904.05572:30507713</guid><pubDate>Tue, 01 Mar 2022 01:03:46 GMT</pubDate><description>&lt;p&gt;Do you have a citation for your claims about the Android security model? The only things I can find about app stores in the paper by Google[0] run directly counter to your idea: &amp;gt; Android explicitly supports installation of apps from arbitrary sources, which led to the development of different app stores and the existence of apps outside of Google Play. And this: &amp;gt; Both users and developers are part of an open ecosystem that is not limited to a single application store. Central vetting of developers or registration of users is not required. And as far as signing goes: &amp;gt; In order to ensure…&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="https://hackerpaper.kaipfister.de/p/1904.05572/"&gt;Paper and discussion history&lt;/a&gt;. A mention is not an endorsement.&lt;/p&gt;</description><category>cs.CR</category></item><item><title>The Android Platform Security Model (2023) — HN submission</title><link>https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=19829658</link><guid isPermaLink="false">urn:hackerpapers:submission:1904.05572:19829658</guid><pubDate>Sat, 04 May 2019 22:00:57 GMT</pubDate><description>&lt;p&gt;The Android Platform Security Model&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;1 point; 0 discussion replies on HN. &lt;a href="https://hackerpaper.kaipfister.de/p/1904.05572/"&gt;Paper and source history&lt;/a&gt;. A submission is not an endorsement.&lt;/p&gt;</description><category>cs.CR</category></item><item><title>The Android Platform Security Model (2023) — HN submission</title><link>https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=19675953</link><guid isPermaLink="false">urn:hackerpapers:submission:1904.05572:19675953</guid><pubDate>Tue, 16 Apr 2019 18:17:17 GMT</pubDate><description>&lt;p&gt;The Android Platform Security Model&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;3 points; 0 discussion replies on HN. &lt;a href="https://hackerpaper.kaipfister.de/p/1904.05572/"&gt;Paper and source history&lt;/a&gt;. A submission is not an endorsement.&lt;/p&gt;</description><category>cs.CR</category></item><item><title>The Android Platform Security Model (2023) — HN submission</title><link>https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=19652855</link><guid isPermaLink="false">urn:hackerpapers:submission:1904.05572:19652855</guid><pubDate>Sat, 13 Apr 2019 13:21:21 GMT</pubDate><description>&lt;p&gt;The Android Platform Security Model [pdf]&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;2 points; 0 discussion replies on HN. &lt;a href="https://hackerpaper.kaipfister.de/p/1904.05572/"&gt;Paper and source history&lt;/a&gt;. A submission is not an endorsement.&lt;/p&gt;</description><category>cs.CR</category></item></channel></rss>
