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<rss version="2.0" xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom"><channel><title>How Does Batch Normalization Help Optimization? · HackerPapers discussions</title><link>https://hackerpaper.kaipfister.de/p/1805.11604/</link><description>Collected HN comments and submissions linking this paper.</description><language>en</language><lastBuildDate>Mon, 02 Nov 2026 11:16:22 GMT</lastBuildDate><atom:link href="https://hackerpaper.kaipfister.de/p/1805.11604/feed.xml" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" /><item><title>How Does Batch Normalization Help Optimization? — mentioned by D-Machine</title><link>https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47367658</link><guid isPermaLink="false">urn:hackerpapers:mention:1805.11604:47367658</guid><pubDate>Fri, 13 Mar 2026 18:10:04 GMT</pubDate><description>&lt;p&gt;Well, one can never be sure what the real motivation for a lot of DL advances, as most papers are post-hoc obscurantism / hand-waving or even just outright nonsense (see: internal covariate shift explanations for batch norm, which arguably couldn&amp;#x27;t be more wrong https://arxiv.org/pdf/1805.11604). When you really get into this stuff, you tend to see the real motivations as either e.g. kernel smoothing (see comments / discussion at https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46357675#46359160) or as encoding correlations / feature similarities / multiplicative interactions (see e.g. broad discussion…&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="https://hackerpaper.kaipfister.de/p/1805.11604/"&gt;Paper and discussion history&lt;/a&gt;. A mention is not an endorsement.&lt;/p&gt;</description><category>stat.ML</category></item><item><title>How Does Batch Normalization Help Optimization? — HN submission</title><link>https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22953454</link><guid isPermaLink="false">urn:hackerpapers:submission:1805.11604:22953454</guid><pubDate>Thu, 23 Apr 2020 06:51:23 GMT</pubDate><description>&lt;p&gt;How Does Batch Normalization Help Optimization? (2018)&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;1 point; 0 discussion replies on HN. &lt;a href="https://hackerpaper.kaipfister.de/p/1805.11604/"&gt;Paper and source history&lt;/a&gt;. A submission is not an endorsement.&lt;/p&gt;</description><category>stat.ML</category></item><item><title>How Does Batch Normalization Help Optimization? — mentioned by sailingparrot</title><link>https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=18582706</link><guid isPermaLink="false">urn:hackerpapers:mention:1805.11604:18582706</guid><pubDate>Sun, 02 Dec 2018 15:32:20 GMT</pubDate><description>&lt;p&gt;&amp;gt; What I am reading from you is that basically the only useful part of the ML paper is the abstract. If the repo/blog had a good abstract there would be no point to the paper. The whole point of a blog post is vulgarization (which is definitely needed as well): explaining an idea without assuming that the reader has a lot of prior knowledge in the domain. Which goes in the opposite direction of what researchers look for: the most efficient way to understand what is being proposed. Most of ML papers abstract would be pretty horrible on a blog post in term of vulgarization. Plus, papers are all…&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="https://hackerpaper.kaipfister.de/p/1805.11604/"&gt;Paper and discussion history&lt;/a&gt;. A mention is not an endorsement.&lt;/p&gt;</description><category>stat.ML</category></item></channel></rss>
