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<rss version="2.0" xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom"><channel><title>The Silurian Hypothesis: Would it be possible to detect an industrial civilization in the geological record? · HackerPapers discussions</title><link>https://hackerpaper.kaipfister.de/p/1804.03748/</link><description>Collected HN comments and submissions linking this paper.</description><language>en</language><lastBuildDate>Mon, 02 Nov 2026 11:16:22 GMT</lastBuildDate><atom:link href="https://hackerpaper.kaipfister.de/p/1804.03748/feed.xml" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" /><item><title>The Silurian Hypothesis: Would it be possible to detect an industrial civilization in the geological record? — HN submission</title><link>https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44705537</link><guid isPermaLink="false">urn:hackerpapers:submission:1804.03748:44705537</guid><pubDate>Sun, 27 Jul 2025 23:08:10 GMT</pubDate><description>&lt;p&gt;The Silurian Hypothesis (2018)&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;4 points; 0 discussion replies on HN. &lt;a href="https://hackerpaper.kaipfister.de/p/1804.03748/"&gt;Paper and source history&lt;/a&gt;. A submission is not an endorsement.&lt;/p&gt;</description><category>astro-ph.EP</category></item><item><title>The Silurian Hypothesis: Would it be possible to detect an industrial civilization in the geological record? — HN submission</title><link>https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44297546</link><guid isPermaLink="false">urn:hackerpapers:submission:1804.03748:44297546</guid><pubDate>Tue, 17 Jun 2025 10:34:10 GMT</pubDate><description>&lt;p&gt;The Silurian Hypothesis (2018)&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;2 points; 0 discussion replies on HN. &lt;a href="https://hackerpaper.kaipfister.de/p/1804.03748/"&gt;Paper and source history&lt;/a&gt;. A submission is not an endorsement.&lt;/p&gt;</description><category>astro-ph.EP</category></item><item><title>The Silurian Hypothesis: Would it be possible to detect an industrial civilization in the geological record? — mentioned by mncharity</title><link>https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42111002</link><guid isPermaLink="false">urn:hackerpapers:mention:1804.03748:42111002</guid><pubDate>Mon, 11 Nov 2024 22:25:45 GMT</pubDate><description>&lt;p&gt;The Silurian Hypothesis: Would it be possible to detect an industrial civilization in the geological record? (2019) https://arxiv.org/pdf/1804.03748&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="https://hackerpaper.kaipfister.de/p/1804.03748/"&gt;Paper and discussion history&lt;/a&gt;. A mention is not an endorsement.&lt;/p&gt;</description><category>astro-ph.EP</category></item><item><title>The Silurian Hypothesis: Would it be possible to detect an industrial civilization in the geological record? — mentioned by noslenwerdna</title><link>https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40380457</link><guid isPermaLink="false">urn:hackerpapers:mention:1804.03748:40380457</guid><pubDate>Thu, 16 May 2024 16:48:10 GMT</pubDate><description>&lt;p&gt;If they were as advanced as we are now, we would have seen that the atmospheric CO2 levels had been higher back then, no? This paper draws the conclusions that such a civilization would be visible in the geological record. https://arxiv.org/abs/1804.03748&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="https://hackerpaper.kaipfister.de/p/1804.03748/"&gt;Paper and discussion history&lt;/a&gt;. A mention is not an endorsement.&lt;/p&gt;</description><category>astro-ph.EP</category></item><item><title>The Silurian Hypothesis: Would it be possible to detect an industrial civilization in the geological record? — mentioned by lumost</title><link>https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40259416</link><guid isPermaLink="false">urn:hackerpapers:mention:1804.03748:40259416</guid><pubDate>Sat, 04 May 2024 18:33:27 GMT</pubDate><description>&lt;p&gt;The concept of prior industrial civilizations was explored in a 2018 paper https://arxiv.org/pdf/1804.03748. If you exclude industry, it could be exceedingly improbable that we would find fossil evidence of such creatures unless the species existed for several million years.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="https://hackerpaper.kaipfister.de/p/1804.03748/"&gt;Paper and discussion history&lt;/a&gt;. A mention is not an endorsement.&lt;/p&gt;</description><category>astro-ph.EP</category></item><item><title>The Silurian Hypothesis: Would it be possible to detect an industrial civilization in the geological record? — mentioned by VHRanger</title><link>https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37162140</link><guid isPermaLink="false">urn:hackerpapers:mention:1804.03748:37162140</guid><pubDate>Thu, 17 Aug 2023 14:26:25 GMT</pubDate><description>&lt;p&gt;That&amp;#x27;s a question in geology and archaeology called the Silurian Hypothesis: Could we even detect a millions-of-years old civilization in the geological record? 1. https://arxiv.org/abs/1804.03748&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="https://hackerpaper.kaipfister.de/p/1804.03748/"&gt;Paper and discussion history&lt;/a&gt;. A mention is not an endorsement.&lt;/p&gt;</description><category>astro-ph.EP</category></item><item><title>The Silurian Hypothesis: Would it be possible to detect an industrial civilization in the geological record? — mentioned by sjy</title><link>https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25855681</link><guid isPermaLink="false">urn:hackerpapers:mention:1804.03748:25855681</guid><pubDate>Thu, 21 Jan 2021 05:10:58 GMT</pubDate><description>&lt;p&gt;I recommend Schmidt and Frank’s article on the Silurian hypothesis [1] for a surprisingly different take on this. The full text is on arXiv [2]. “We summarize the likely geological fingerprint of the Anthropocene, and demonstrate that while clear, it will not differ greatly in many respects from other known events in the geological record” – that is, the record we can observe from a distance of zero! [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silurian_hypothesis [2] https://arxiv.org/abs/1804.03748&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="https://hackerpaper.kaipfister.de/p/1804.03748/"&gt;Paper and discussion history&lt;/a&gt;. A mention is not an endorsement.&lt;/p&gt;</description><category>astro-ph.EP</category></item><item><title>The Silurian Hypothesis: Would it be possible to detect an industrial civilization in the geological record? — mentioned by aardvark179</title><link>https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25753802</link><guid isPermaLink="false">urn:hackerpapers:mention:1804.03748:25753802</guid><pubDate>Tue, 12 Jan 2021 21:16:02 GMT</pubDate><description>&lt;p&gt;Depends how long dead we’re talking about. You might like this paper[1] which asks what evidence would be left if there had been a pre-human industrial civilisation. [1] https://arxiv.org/abs/1804.03748&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="https://hackerpaper.kaipfister.de/p/1804.03748/"&gt;Paper and discussion history&lt;/a&gt;. A mention is not an endorsement.&lt;/p&gt;</description><category>astro-ph.EP</category></item><item><title>The Silurian Hypothesis: Would it be possible to detect an industrial civilization in the geological record? — HN submission</title><link>https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24601375</link><guid isPermaLink="false">urn:hackerpapers:submission:1804.03748:24601375</guid><pubDate>Sat, 26 Sep 2020 19:14:54 GMT</pubDate><description>&lt;p&gt;Would it be possible to detect an industrial civilization in geological record?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;156 points; 178 discussion replies on HN. &lt;a href="https://hackerpaper.kaipfister.de/p/1804.03748/"&gt;Paper and source history&lt;/a&gt;. A submission is not an endorsement.&lt;/p&gt;</description><category>astro-ph.EP</category></item><item><title>The Silurian Hypothesis: Would it be possible to detect an industrial civilization in the geological record? — mentioned by LargoLasskhyfv</title><link>https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24210826</link><guid isPermaLink="false">urn:hackerpapers:mention:1804.03748:24210826</guid><pubDate>Wed, 19 Aug 2020 14:39:57 GMT</pubDate><description>&lt;p&gt;You mean like https://www.theatlantic.com/science/archive/2018/04/are-we-e... which links to https://arxiv.org/abs/1804.03748 ?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="https://hackerpaper.kaipfister.de/p/1804.03748/"&gt;Paper and discussion history&lt;/a&gt;. A mention is not an endorsement.&lt;/p&gt;</description><category>astro-ph.EP</category></item><item><title>The Silurian Hypothesis: Would it be possible to detect an industrial civilization in the geological record? — mentioned by hprotagonist</title><link>https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24203863</link><guid isPermaLink="false">urn:hackerpapers:mention:1804.03748:24203863</guid><pubDate>Tue, 18 Aug 2020 20:22:15 GMT</pubDate><description>&lt;p&gt;https://arxiv.org/abs/1804.03748 If an industrial civilization had existed on Earth many millions of years prior to our own era, what traces would it have left and would they be detectable today? We summarize the likely geological fingerprint of the Anthropocene, and demonstrate that while clear, it will not differ greatly in many respects from other known events in the geological record. We then propose tests that could plausibly distinguish an industrial cause from an otherwise naturally occurring climate event.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="https://hackerpaper.kaipfister.de/p/1804.03748/"&gt;Paper and discussion history&lt;/a&gt;. A mention is not an endorsement.&lt;/p&gt;</description><category>astro-ph.EP</category></item><item><title>The Silurian Hypothesis: Would it be possible to detect an industrial civilization in the geological record? — mentioned by mkl</title><link>https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23661915</link><guid isPermaLink="false">urn:hackerpapers:mention:1804.03748:23661915</guid><pubDate>Sat, 27 Jun 2020 14:08:28 GMT</pubDate><description>&lt;p&gt;&amp;quot;We name the hypothesis after a 1970 episode of the British science fiction TV series Doctor Who&amp;quot; - The Silurian Hypothesis: Would it be possible to detect an industrial civilization in the geological record? https://arxiv.org/abs/1804.03748&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="https://hackerpaper.kaipfister.de/p/1804.03748/"&gt;Paper and discussion history&lt;/a&gt;. A mention is not an endorsement.&lt;/p&gt;</description><category>astro-ph.EP</category></item><item><title>The Silurian Hypothesis: Would it be possible to detect an industrial civilization in the geological record? — HN submission</title><link>https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22150231</link><guid isPermaLink="false">urn:hackerpapers:submission:1804.03748:22150231</guid><pubDate>Sun, 26 Jan 2020 03:37:19 GMT</pubDate><description>&lt;p&gt;The Silurian Hypothesis&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;2 points; 0 discussion replies on HN. &lt;a href="https://hackerpaper.kaipfister.de/p/1804.03748/"&gt;Paper and source history&lt;/a&gt;. A submission is not an endorsement.&lt;/p&gt;</description><category>astro-ph.EP</category></item><item><title>The Silurian Hypothesis: Would it be possible to detect an industrial civilization in the geological record? — HN submission</title><link>https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21813879</link><guid isPermaLink="false">urn:hackerpapers:submission:1804.03748:21813879</guid><pubDate>Tue, 17 Dec 2019 14:43:54 GMT</pubDate><description>&lt;p&gt;Is it possible to detect an industrial civilization in the geological record?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;1 point; 0 discussion replies on HN. &lt;a href="https://hackerpaper.kaipfister.de/p/1804.03748/"&gt;Paper and source history&lt;/a&gt;. A submission is not an endorsement.&lt;/p&gt;</description><category>astro-ph.EP</category></item><item><title>The Silurian Hypothesis: Would it be possible to detect an industrial civilization in the geological record? — mentioned by namirez</title><link>https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21264516</link><guid isPermaLink="false">urn:hackerpapers:mention:1804.03748:21264516</guid><pubDate>Tue, 15 Oct 2019 22:12:35 GMT</pubDate><description>&lt;p&gt;Most likely it is nonsense. The carbon and nitrogen composition of sedimentary layers will show anomalies in case of intelligent civilizations. https://arxiv.org/pdf/1804.03748.pdf&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="https://hackerpaper.kaipfister.de/p/1804.03748/"&gt;Paper and discussion history&lt;/a&gt;. A mention is not an endorsement.&lt;/p&gt;</description><category>astro-ph.EP</category></item><item><title>The Silurian Hypothesis: Would it be possible to detect an industrial civilization in the geological record? — mentioned by HuShifang</title><link>https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=20844627</link><guid isPermaLink="false">urn:hackerpapers:mention:1804.03748:20844627</guid><pubDate>Sat, 31 Aug 2019 04:33:42 GMT</pubDate><description>&lt;p&gt;Some recent, informed speculation about such possibilities: https://arxiv.org/abs/1804.03748&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="https://hackerpaper.kaipfister.de/p/1804.03748/"&gt;Paper and discussion history&lt;/a&gt;. A mention is not an endorsement.&lt;/p&gt;</description><category>astro-ph.EP</category></item><item><title>The Silurian Hypothesis: Would it be possible to detect an industrial civilization in the geological record? — mentioned by mellosouls</title><link>https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=20401463</link><guid isPermaLink="false">urn:hackerpapers:mention:1804.03748:20401463</guid><pubDate>Wed, 10 Jul 2019 12:52:44 GMT</pubDate><description>&lt;p&gt;Yes, this has been investigated before - e.g. https://arxiv.org/abs/1804.03748 https://www.theatlantic.com/science/archive/2018/04/are-we-e... But the evidence we have (as per prior comments) is that a human-level intelligence civilisation has arisen only once on Earth.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="https://hackerpaper.kaipfister.de/p/1804.03748/"&gt;Paper and discussion history&lt;/a&gt;. A mention is not an endorsement.&lt;/p&gt;</description><category>astro-ph.EP</category></item><item><title>The Silurian Hypothesis: Would it be possible to detect an industrial civilization in the geological record? — mentioned by hesk</title><link>https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=20216494</link><guid isPermaLink="false">urn:hackerpapers:mention:1804.03748:20216494</guid><pubDate>Tue, 18 Jun 2019 18:17:20 GMT</pubDate><description>&lt;p&gt;Maybe it was this? Gavin A. Schmidt, Adam Frank: The Silurian Hypothesis: Would it be possible to detect an industrial civilization in the geological record?, https://arxiv.org/abs/1804.03748 I found it through an article in The Atlantic that may or may not have been linked on HN recently. https://www.theatlantic.com/science/archive/2018/04/are-we-e...&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="https://hackerpaper.kaipfister.de/p/1804.03748/"&gt;Paper and discussion history&lt;/a&gt;. A mention is not an endorsement.&lt;/p&gt;</description><category>astro-ph.EP</category></item><item><title>The Silurian Hypothesis: Would it be possible to detect an industrial civilization in the geological record? — HN submission</title><link>https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17899038</link><guid isPermaLink="false">urn:hackerpapers:submission:1804.03748:17899038</guid><pubDate>Sun, 02 Sep 2018 22:29:24 GMT</pubDate><description>&lt;p&gt;Is it be possible to detect an industrial civilization in the geological record?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;4 points; 2 discussion replies on HN. &lt;a href="https://hackerpaper.kaipfister.de/p/1804.03748/"&gt;Paper and source history&lt;/a&gt;. A submission is not an endorsement.&lt;/p&gt;</description><category>astro-ph.EP</category></item><item><title>The Silurian Hypothesis: Would it be possible to detect an industrial civilization in the geological record? — HN submission</title><link>https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=16874948</link><guid isPermaLink="false">urn:hackerpapers:submission:1804.03748:16874948</guid><pubDate>Thu, 19 Apr 2018 11:30:54 GMT</pubDate><description>&lt;p&gt;Would it be possible to detect industrial civilization in the geological record?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;1 point; 0 discussion replies on HN. &lt;a href="https://hackerpaper.kaipfister.de/p/1804.03748/"&gt;Paper and source history&lt;/a&gt;. A submission is not an endorsement.&lt;/p&gt;</description><category>astro-ph.EP</category></item><item><title>The Silurian Hypothesis: Would it be possible to detect an industrial civilization in the geological record? — HN submission</title><link>https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=16824170</link><guid isPermaLink="false">urn:hackerpapers:submission:1804.03748:16824170</guid><pubDate>Thu, 12 Apr 2018 19:33:22 GMT</pubDate><description>&lt;p&gt;Would it be possible to detect an industrial civ. in the geological record?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;3 points; 0 discussion replies on HN. &lt;a href="https://hackerpaper.kaipfister.de/p/1804.03748/"&gt;Paper and source history&lt;/a&gt;. A submission is not an endorsement.&lt;/p&gt;</description><category>astro-ph.EP</category></item></channel></rss>
