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<rss version="2.0" xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom"><channel><title>The Secret Sharer: Evaluating and Testing Unintended Memorization in Neural Networks · HackerPapers discussions</title><link>https://hackerpaper.kaipfister.de/p/1802.08232/</link><description>Collected HN comments and submissions linking this paper.</description><language>en</language><lastBuildDate>Mon, 02 Nov 2026 11:16:22 GMT</lastBuildDate><atom:link href="https://hackerpaper.kaipfister.de/p/1802.08232/feed.xml" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" /><item><title>The Secret Sharer: Evaluating and Testing Unintended Memorization in Neural Networks — mentioned by astrange</title><link>https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25654818</link><guid isPermaLink="false">urn:hackerpapers:mention:1802.08232:25654818</guid><pubDate>Wed, 06 Jan 2021 05:06:07 GMT</pubDate><description>&lt;p&gt;Models can unpredictably memorize sensitive input data, so there can be a real copyright issue here, I think. https://arxiv.org/abs/1802.08232 Worse, sometimes the input data is illegal to distribute for other reasons than copyright.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="https://hackerpaper.kaipfister.de/p/1802.08232/"&gt;Paper and discussion history&lt;/a&gt;. A mention is not an endorsement.&lt;/p&gt;</description><category>cs.LG</category></item><item><title>The Secret Sharer: Evaluating and Testing Unintended Memorization in Neural Networks — mentioned by Imnimo</title><link>https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25649591</link><guid isPermaLink="false">urn:hackerpapers:mention:1802.08232:25649591</guid><pubDate>Tue, 05 Jan 2021 19:10:08 GMT</pubDate><description>&lt;p&gt;Point 1 might be less clear cut in some settings. Obviously, if you&amp;#x27;re just doing a simple regression, it&amp;#x27;s no big deal, but more powerful models can memorize and expose parts of their training data. See for example: https://arxiv.org/abs/1802.08232&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="https://hackerpaper.kaipfister.de/p/1802.08232/"&gt;Paper and discussion history&lt;/a&gt;. A mention is not an endorsement.&lt;/p&gt;</description><category>cs.LG</category></item><item><title>The Secret Sharer: Evaluating and Testing Unintended Memorization in Neural Networks — mentioned by fyp</title><link>https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21549085</link><guid isPermaLink="false">urn:hackerpapers:mention:1802.08232:21549085</guid><pubDate>Fri, 15 Nov 2019 21:41:32 GMT</pubDate><description>&lt;p&gt;We probably need a technical rather than legal solution for this. The problem is that generative algorithms are susceptible to accidental memorization so you can&amp;#x27;t guarantee that the output will be transformative. For example, play with https://talktotransformer.com to see how many well known pieces of text it can spew out verbatim. It is very prone to derailing into a harry potter fan fiction regardless of prompt. Other than copyright there are privacy considerations too. For example Gmail&amp;#x27;s Smart Compose is trained on users&amp;#x27; private messages so you don&amp;#x27;t want it to memorize &amp;quot;private&amp;quot;…&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="https://hackerpaper.kaipfister.de/p/1802.08232/"&gt;Paper and discussion history&lt;/a&gt;. A mention is not an endorsement.&lt;/p&gt;</description><category>cs.LG</category></item><item><title>The Secret Sharer: Evaluating and Testing Unintended Memorization in Neural Networks — mentioned by craffel</title><link>https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21355198</link><guid isPermaLink="false">urn:hackerpapers:mention:1802.08232:21355198</guid><pubDate>Fri, 25 Oct 2019 14:21:18 GMT</pubDate><description>&lt;p&gt;It actually can be more pernicious than that: https://arxiv.org/abs/1802.08232 However note that the dataset used to train GPT-2 is about 20x smaller than C4. I&amp;#x27;m not 100% sure how many times the training set was repeated over the course of training for GPT-2, but it was likely many times. I stand by my statement (that memorization is unlikely with SGD and no repetition of training data) but I would be happy to be proven otherwise.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="https://hackerpaper.kaipfister.de/p/1802.08232/"&gt;Paper and discussion history&lt;/a&gt;. A mention is not an endorsement.&lt;/p&gt;</description><category>cs.LG</category></item><item><title>The Secret Sharer: Evaluating and Testing Unintended Memorization in Neural Networks — mentioned by evrydayhustling</title><link>https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=19929028</link><guid isPermaLink="false">urn:hackerpapers:mention:1802.08232:19929028</guid><pubDate>Thu, 16 May 2019 13:51:38 GMT</pubDate><description>&lt;p&gt;This is probably a &amp;quot;publishing in the press&amp;quot; translation issue, but the notion that neural networks have no memory is dead wrong. DNNs encode incredibly specific histories of training data in their weights, which is both a privacy/security risk [1] and a phenomena that is actively being utilized in many dnn architectures. Overall, this has a &amp;quot;brand the framework before proving exceptional capabilities&amp;quot; feel. [1] https://arxiv.org/abs/1802.08232&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="https://hackerpaper.kaipfister.de/p/1802.08232/"&gt;Paper and discussion history&lt;/a&gt;. A mention is not an endorsement.&lt;/p&gt;</description><category>cs.LG</category></item><item><title>The Secret Sharer: Evaluating and Testing Unintended Memorization in Neural Networks — HN submission</title><link>https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=18312324</link><guid isPermaLink="false">urn:hackerpapers:submission:1802.08232:18312324</guid><pubDate>Fri, 26 Oct 2018 20:03:37 GMT</pubDate><description>&lt;p&gt;Measuring Unintended Neural Network Memorization and Extracting Secrets&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;2 points; 0 discussion replies on HN. &lt;a href="https://hackerpaper.kaipfister.de/p/1802.08232/"&gt;Paper and source history&lt;/a&gt;. A submission is not an endorsement.&lt;/p&gt;</description><category>cs.LG</category></item><item><title>The Secret Sharer: Evaluating and Testing Unintended Memorization in Neural Networks — HN submission</title><link>https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=16520892</link><guid isPermaLink="false">urn:hackerpapers:submission:1802.08232:16520892</guid><pubDate>Mon, 05 Mar 2018 13:31:46 GMT</pubDate><description>&lt;p&gt;The Secret Sharer: Measuring Unintended NN Memorization and Extracting Secrets&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;2 points; 0 discussion replies on HN. &lt;a href="https://hackerpaper.kaipfister.de/p/1802.08232/"&gt;Paper and source history&lt;/a&gt;. A submission is not an endorsement.&lt;/p&gt;</description><category>cs.LG</category></item><item><title>The Secret Sharer: Evaluating and Testing Unintended Memorization in Neural Networks — HN submission</title><link>https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=16479783</link><guid isPermaLink="false">urn:hackerpapers:submission:1802.08232:16479783</guid><pubDate>Wed, 28 Feb 2018 01:03:04 GMT</pubDate><description>&lt;p&gt;The Secret Sharer: Measuring Unintended NN Memorization and Extracting Secrets&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;2 points; 0 discussion replies on HN. &lt;a href="https://hackerpaper.kaipfister.de/p/1802.08232/"&gt;Paper and source history&lt;/a&gt;. A submission is not an endorsement.&lt;/p&gt;</description><category>cs.LG</category></item><item><title>The Secret Sharer: Evaluating and Testing Unintended Memorization in Neural Networks — HN submission</title><link>https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=16470506</link><guid isPermaLink="false">urn:hackerpapers:submission:1802.08232:16470506</guid><pubDate>Tue, 27 Feb 2018 01:38:41 GMT</pubDate><description>&lt;p&gt;Measuring Unintended Neural Network Memorization and Extracting Secrets [pdf]&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;1 point; 0 discussion replies on HN. &lt;a href="https://hackerpaper.kaipfister.de/p/1802.08232/"&gt;Paper and source history&lt;/a&gt;. A submission is not an endorsement.&lt;/p&gt;</description><category>cs.LG</category></item></channel></rss>
