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<rss version="2.0" xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom"><channel><title>The impossibility of "fairness": a generalized impossibility result for decisions · HackerPapers discussions</title><link>https://hackerpaper.kaipfister.de/p/1707.01195/</link><description>Collected HN comments and submissions linking this paper.</description><language>en</language><lastBuildDate>Mon, 02 Nov 2026 11:16:22 GMT</lastBuildDate><atom:link href="https://hackerpaper.kaipfister.de/p/1707.01195/feed.xml" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" /><item><title>The impossibility of "fairness": a generalized impossibility result for decisions — mentioned by olddustytrail</title><link>https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35174414</link><guid isPermaLink="false">urn:hackerpapers:mention:1707.01195:35174414</guid><pubDate>Wed, 15 Mar 2023 20:41:15 GMT</pubDate><description>&lt;p&gt;Can you link to the paper you read? My search only revealed https://arxiv.org/abs/1707.01195 which has no mention whatsoever of the old fashioned idea of &amp;quot;races&amp;quot;.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="https://hackerpaper.kaipfister.de/p/1707.01195/"&gt;Paper and discussion history&lt;/a&gt;. A mention is not an endorsement.&lt;/p&gt;</description><category>stat.AP</category></item><item><title>The impossibility of "fairness": a generalized impossibility result for decisions — HN submission</title><link>https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32000205</link><guid isPermaLink="false">urn:hackerpapers:submission:1707.01195:32000205</guid><pubDate>Wed, 06 Jul 2022 13:01:04 GMT</pubDate><description>&lt;p&gt;The impossibility of “fairness”:a generalized impossibility result for decisions&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;2 points; 0 discussion replies on HN. &lt;a href="https://hackerpaper.kaipfister.de/p/1707.01195/"&gt;Paper and source history&lt;/a&gt;. A submission is not an endorsement.&lt;/p&gt;</description><category>stat.AP</category></item><item><title>The impossibility of "fairness": a generalized impossibility result for decisions — mentioned by josephcsible</title><link>https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30370582</link><guid isPermaLink="false">urn:hackerpapers:mention:1707.01195:30370582</guid><pubDate>Thu, 17 Feb 2022 08:00:35 GMT</pubDate><description>&lt;p&gt;But unless the system is either completely perfect (i.e., its predictions are never wrong), or completely worthless because it ignores all input data and always gives the same risk score, then there will always be some measurement that says it&amp;#x27;s discriminatory on protected classes: https://arxiv.org/abs/1707.01195&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="https://hackerpaper.kaipfister.de/p/1707.01195/"&gt;Paper and discussion history&lt;/a&gt;. A mention is not an endorsement.&lt;/p&gt;</description><category>stat.AP</category></item><item><title>The impossibility of "fairness": a generalized impossibility result for decisions — HN submission</title><link>https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28338627</link><guid isPermaLink="false">urn:hackerpapers:submission:1707.01195:28338627</guid><pubDate>Sat, 28 Aug 2021 15:07:32 GMT</pubDate><description>&lt;p&gt;The impossibility of fairness: a generalized impossibility result for decisions&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;3 points; 1 discussion reply on HN. &lt;a href="https://hackerpaper.kaipfister.de/p/1707.01195/"&gt;Paper and source history&lt;/a&gt;. A submission is not an endorsement.&lt;/p&gt;</description><category>stat.AP</category></item><item><title>The impossibility of "fairness": a generalized impossibility result for decisions — mentioned by bobcostas55</title><link>https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22396840</link><guid isPermaLink="false">urn:hackerpapers:mention:1707.01195:22396840</guid><pubDate>Sun, 23 Feb 2020 13:59:58 GMT</pubDate><description>&lt;p&gt;Anyone looking into this stuff needs to read &amp;quot;The impossibility of “fairness”: a generalized impossibility result for decisions&amp;quot;[0] One type of fairness is always trading off against another, and any presentation suggesting you can just magically increase the fairness of your classifier is straight-up lying. [0]: https://arxiv.org/pdf/1707.01195.pdf&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="https://hackerpaper.kaipfister.de/p/1707.01195/"&gt;Paper and discussion history&lt;/a&gt;. A mention is not an endorsement.&lt;/p&gt;</description><category>stat.AP</category></item><item><title>The impossibility of "fairness": a generalized impossibility result for decisions — mentioned by bobcostas55</title><link>https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17259505</link><guid isPermaLink="false">urn:hackerpapers:mention:1707.01195:17259505</guid><pubDate>Thu, 07 Jun 2018 19:42:56 GMT</pubDate><description>&lt;p&gt;&amp;gt;Avoid creating or reinforcing unfair bias. I recommend _The impossibility of “fairness”: a generalized impossibility result for decisions_[0] and _Inherent Trade-Offs in the Fair Determination of Risk Scores_[1] [0] https://arxiv.org/pdf/1707.01195.pdf [1] https://arxiv.org/pdf/1609.05807v1.pdf&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="https://hackerpaper.kaipfister.de/p/1707.01195/"&gt;Paper and discussion history&lt;/a&gt;. A mention is not an endorsement.&lt;/p&gt;</description><category>stat.AP</category></item></channel></rss>
